[Dynagroove] Bad F.A.M.I.L.Y.

Mon Jun 11 18:19:23 PDT 2001

True to that Cade, but it's possible to have a low overhead if you make it 
possible. I know no one likes to lose money, but some times you have to give 
back in order to recieve. I know you guys do a weekly free club/bar but it's 
not too much to ask to have a $10 party. If the venue is too expensive then 
save it for the next time and find a cheaper one. There are medium size 
venues out there for cheap you just have to look. Ask Eric Joiner he knows 
of some venues that are in a good price range. At least thats what I was 
told. Seriously there has been some good parties with great dj's that only 
charged $10. We're only charging $10 at our next party with Jonene. We don't 
expect to make all kinds of money but the point is to keep it consistant. I 
think the people have spoken and they are feeling the pinch in their 
pockets. Parties with local talent should in my opinion charge only $7-$10 
max! Screw those expensive venues man, I know of some venues that are cheap, 
I mean dirt cheap.

As for the F.A.M.I.L.Y. & DSOF party that just happened that is too bad for 
them being shut down. I've been there (getting busted) more then one time 
and I know what they are going through. But judging by their line-up they 
had, (which was advertised on their flyer) they should of charged  $10-$12. 
And remember people, this is only my opinion...People are going to parties 
to see friends and most importantly the DJ'S! I understand they put a lot of 
extra effort in dressing up their parties but it doesn't cost 2000 dollars 
for some spray paint, plastic and canvase. I doubt it even cost 800 dollars. 
But the point is when using the same venue 3 weeks in a row come on now you 
tell me if you were a paying party goer and you found out that this 20 
dollar party was at the same venue you've been to 3 weeks in a row now. 
Where these same promoters used and charged $15-$20 bucks. Would you 
seriously pay $20 to get in knowing the line-up is what it was? Not that any 
of those dj's are bad but most of them hardley play out, but they are our 
local talent who we have to support. If I were behind that party I would of 
charged no more then $15 bucks and that is pushing it. Enough babbling I 
gotta run, but DSOF and F.A.M.I.L.Y. keep your heads up it happens to the 
best of us. If you feel a make-up party is neccessary then do it. If not 
then move on to the next venture and continue throwing your good vibe 
parties. If we're not running the same night (like this past saturday) then 
I'll be there! Like I was at the two before this one (fire&ice, and the 
party with Miguel). You guys rock! Mr. Doug, keep it real as always brotha! 
Marty...get at Andy V. Peace out fellas and have a good nights rest.

a few hundred cents,
G-Dubbs

>From: Cade O Nelson <con at reelhouse.net>
>To: Scott Findley <scottfindl at earthlink.net>
>CC: AbstraktJazz at aol.com, dynagroove at reelhouse.net
>Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] Bad F.A.M.I.L.Y.
>Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:58:10 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>It is hard to do a $10 party even with Locals only...  Venue prices and
>Security just kill you....  When I first started throwing parties I could
>get a venue for $1000...   Now I am lucky if I find anything less then
>$2200.  Most venues take vending also which means all you have is the
>door.  After everything is said and done your looking at a $4500
>budget.  That is 450 people at $10...  I can book Diz and Jonene and just
>barly pull that many people.  How is a local only line up going to pull
>that many?   The solution I have come up with is to do pre-sale tickets at
>$10 - $12 and then do $20 the night of.  The last motion I did little more
>then break even...  So I can understand why it is that they charge
>$20.  Family and DSOF also have a habbit of doing an all out production
>with Props and a slew of DJ.  To live and love in LA had about 10 DJs on
>the flier..   let's just imagine that each DJ gets paid $150.   that is
>another $1500 to tack onto cost... But most DJs think they are worth much
>more the $150...  So who knows what kinda prices they were dishing
>out...  I can see why they charge the $20....   If it is worth it or not
>is up to you guys..
>
>Cade
>
>
>
>On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Scott Findley wrote:
>
> > At 08:24 PM 6/10/01 -0400, AbstraktJazz at aol.com wrote:
> > >why did they need to charge $20 for that party anyway?? That looked 
>like a
> > >$10 lineup, if even that. I mean its understandable that the party got 
>broken
> > >up, but an underground party like that should never exceed $10, for the
> > >simple fact of the possibility of it being broken up.
> >
> > You know this is something that has been troubling me. Ive been seeing a
> > lot of parties up their rates lately for what seems to be, like you 
>said, a
> > $10 lineup.
> >
> > whats the deal?? if I pay $20 I want to see some out of town talent, 
>maybe
> > some *gasp* adventerous bookings - and MAYBE someone who doesnt play the
> > same shit, every other DJ in LA plays. There is such a lack of diversity 
>in
> > LA's musical spectrum it just blows my mind sometimes. And its not 
>entirely
> > the promoters fault for playing it 'safe'.. the bottom line is people 
>just
> > want to see mark farina and doc martin! names they recognize and know 
>what
> > theyre going to get. Its pretty sad, since there is so much more 
>happening
> > in our music than the same ten filtered disco tracks, but welcome to LA,
> > the cultural chum-bucket of the universe
> >
> > I dont want to see the locals who, although all good djs, for the most
> > part, I could see at free thinking on any given weekend (for the low low
> > price of nothing)
> >
> > and another thing...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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