[Dynagroove] Re: my fuckin opinion

WhiskeyMbl at aol.com WhiskeyMbl at aol.com
Tue Oct 16 16:09:10 PDT 2001


I think a nicer alternative to this email would have been constructive
criticism.  In the past couple of weeks many postings have come 
thru this list that have been complaints backed with little or no 
resolution.  If you are so upset at the big name DJs that come 
thru with what you deem as little talent, please tell us who you 
would prefer to see.  Promoters rely upon your opinion, give it 
to them.  Don't just say, "so-and-so major DJ sucks."  Try saying, 
"I am tired of seeing so-and-so major DJ, do you think you could get 
so-and-so local DJ next time?"  It is tiring to see a party that was 
enjoyed  by so many people get trashed yet the trashee gives no resolve.  

Maybe you should contact a couple of the promoters on this list 
and talk to them about throwing a local DJ party with the cali kids
you would like to see.  Figure out a good line-up that will draw 
enough people to pay for the venue, security, advertising and help.  
Do up a proposal, a solid one, one that works out all the minor 
details that you maybe haven't thought of. Do some number crunching 
and figure out what your budget is.  You will be very surprised to 
see how little money you will make, if any, for a $10 party.  

It makes me sad to hear complaints that no one throws events with 
local cali kids as DJs, there certainly are plenty of them - you just 
need to look for them.  In the past couple of weeks I have seen several 
posts from Spirit at Our House saying they are having a low turn out 
yet still intend to pass the cash to the Red Cross.  Her Tuesday nights 
are filled with local talent, go there.  Again, there is Free Thinking and 
the Zach Rieken/DJLA crew throwing free evenings of local talent.  If 
you have buddies that are itching to play, have them tape their session 
and pass it along to those promoters so they can get a chance to dazzle
us.  Even better, point them to DJLA, have them join the online community 
where DJ sessions are posted.  You have a responsibility to this scene 
to pass the word along about a great unknown DJ that you think needs 
to be heard by the rest of us.  When you feel there is a small party going 
on that is worthy of a positive attendance, post it to this list, don't just 
tell 
us that we suck and we don't support.

As far as trashing DJs such as Doc, Diz and Farina, that's unnecessary.  
Those DJs are more than generous with talking to up and coming DJs, 
telling what tracks to watch for, giving out records, telling them what they 
just did to attain that beautiful mix, how they read the crowd and adjust 
their programming.  They are more than generous with the trainspotters 
hovering over the tables and pass their records so that they themselves 
can later go grab a copy of that fine track.  

LA is a very lucky city to draw this talent in smaller, intimate settings 
and not at the big huge (and hellish) massives.  Where can you see 
DJs like Diz and Heather play for 4 HOURS each and rock the house?  
I was there for all of Heather's set and could not believe the reviews I 
saw later.  Her whole set was amazing, it went deep and got 
banging later, a real journey.  One post even claimed it looked like she 
was just going thru the motions and not enjoying her set, obviously you 
were not close enough to see her shaking her ass, clapping and getting 
into her own mixes and sounds.  You truly missed out.  For the approximate
700 folks there, they seemed to be enjoying themselves just fine.  On a 
side note, if you missed out on Johnny Fiasco at Tropical, you really lost.  
To see someone that rarely comes to the area play a smaller party than 
he is use to was amazing.  He was really great, and again, another 
nice person who had no trouble socializing with those crowding around 
wanting to know what he just threw down.

Every music scene relies upon its audience, it is up to you to promote 
or criticize.  It is best if you criticize with resolve so that those 
throwing 
the parties can respond next time.  Blanket statements like, "People who 
bring out big name djs are not about music, but they are only about the 
money" are completely unfair and not well thought out. 

regards, 
deanna


In a message dated 10/16/2001 8:27:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
DomesticGRAM at aol.com writes:

> Hey fellow house heads out there.  I just want to stress my opinion again.  
>  To pay twenty dollars to  some dude who is throwning a party is fucking 
>  ridicuolous.  There are so many cali kids out there who are bomb ass djs 
> that 
>  no one know about.  People who bring out big name djs are not about music, 
>  but they are only about the money.  they charge 20 so they can come up not 
> so 
>  they can break even.  Someone who throws 5 dollar parties just want people 
> to 
>  have a great time.  I know all those yuppie ass house heads want to see 
lame 
> 
>  ass doc or diz or mark farina.  But who are those fuckin guys anyway but 
>  celebrities to you kids anyways.  People need to support there local 
heroes 
>  more.  I used to go to here the big names play but it all became 
irellevent 
>  to me.  99% of the time i here these guys they just fuck up anyway.  An 
the 
>  only people who actually here the fuck ups are the djs.  So why even go an 
>  pay the big bucks when your paying to here shitty mixes anyway.  Please go 
> an 
>  support your local heroes out there trying to do something right.  They 
call 
> 
>  this music underground, that doesnt mean you need to pay mass money to 
here 
>  half these fags play.Again i will say,,,,,,,,,,Support Local Talent as 
much 
>  as possible, plus most of those parties you wont get searched at anyway.  
An 
> 
>  tell me this, what is better than a bunch of under aged kids drinking.
>  Please feel free to reply to this outrageous comentary
>  Gram,
>  
>  
>  
>  Peace






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