[Dynagroove] CD player question...

[Zack Hill]

Here's 2 very good comparison's between the 2 models. The first is just
a chart, the second is an actual explanation of the different features
that each has....



The following was written by Pioneer's Karl Detken.

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CDJ-800

* Smaller footprint (305W*105H*330D) than CDJ-1000 (320W*105H*370D).
* NEW: > Quick Return for beginning scratchers
* NEW: > Lighter feel jog dial for beginning scratchers
* NEW: > Auto Beat Loop
* NEW: > Tempo Control +-100% Pitch control 
* NEW: > DJ Function Digital Out (including sending scratch, pitch,
master tempo digital data info through digital outs)
* Smaller Capacity Internal Cue/Loop Memory: 1 points per CD up to 500
CDs
* No facility for external memory (no MMC)
* Minimum Tempo Step only 0.05%
* Only one Vinyl Speed Adjust
* Only one adjust for both touch & release (it CAN do a "break" still)
* No Wave Display
* No Tempo Reset
* No Hot Cue memory buttons 
* No CD Text
* No Calendar Display
* BPM Counter: same as 1000
* Sound Skipping Prevention: Shock Proof Memory & Floating Suspension
(Oil Damper): same as 1000
* Legato Link Conversion: same as 1000

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CDJ-1000

* Wave Display
* 3 Hot Cue memory buttons
* Cue/Loop Internal Memory 10 points per CD up to 100 CDs
* Cue/Loop External Memory (MMC): 100 points per CD up to 10000 CDs =
1,000,000 points of memory!
* Tempo Control ±24% Pitch control 
* Finer Minimum Tempo Steps on the pitch control 0.02%
* Tempo Reset function button
* Wave Display
* CD Text
* Two Vinyl Speed Adjust
* Separated adjust for Touch & Release
* Commercial design
* Calendar Display
* BPM Counter
* Sound Skipping Prevention: Shock Proof Memory & Floating Suspension
(Oil Damper)
* Legato Link Conversion"



The Folowing was written by Pioneer's DJ Pulse.


"The 1000 and 800 are VERY similar in form and function, and I say
"similar" instead of "identical" because they both have the exact same
scratching functions and sound (nothing has been sacrificed there), but
the layout and features are slightly different.

Let's start with what most people will notice first - the display.

The 800 doesn't have the advanced memory features of the 1000 - there's
no waveform display, there's almost no banked cuepoints (you get 1). You
have a simple clean display much like that of any other Pio CDJ. Along
with the memory differences, there's a much more limited onboard memory
- 1 cuepoint per CD for 500 CDs. The 1000 can store 10 cuepoints per CD
(no waveform) for 1000 CDs. When you use an MMC card (16MB) you get 100
per CD for 10000 CDs, plus the waveform data is stored on the card
instead of being read when the disc plays.

Both decks have looping, but the 800 doesn't have the option to adjust
the inpoint, only the 1000 can do that over all the Pioneer board of
products.

Next up - no hotcues on the 800, but a bank of "Auto Beat Loop" buttons
sits in the same place. This is a really cool feature, much like the
"emergency loop" on the CMX3000, you press the button and it
automagically sets a 1, 2, 4 or 8 beat loop. You can jump back and forth
between them as well. They're not hot-cues, but they're cool and fast.
One thing I noticed about the 800 right away was the lack of a reverse
toggle-switch - it's now a button. This is a slightly slower method for
those guys who really love to jam on that switch, but it'll still work.
On the right side of the decks, there's the Vinyl Speed Adjust. The 1000
has settings for both stop and start, whereas the 800 is a universal
setting for both.

Just below this we've got the pitch range. While the 1000 has a greater
resolution of pitch (0.02% at the 6% range, 0.05% at the 10% range, 0.1%
at the 16% and 24% ranges), the 800 offers 0.05% at 10% and the new wide
range (which is 100% range, same as the CMX3000). One more note - the
tempo slider is not a dipless slider - there is a notch at the 0%
position.

One thing I skipped over in the display area was a brand new feature
which a lot of DJs will LOVE (esp. the scratch guys), the "Quick
Return". This feature allows you to scratch and let the record play, but
when you touch the platter (jog dial), the palyer returns your position
to your cuepoint! You let it go, touch the top again, and you're back at
the cue.

One big difference between the 800 and the 1000 is the weight of the
jogdial / platter. The 800 is noticeably lighter, and spins more freely
than the 1000 does. You give it a good backspin and it will spin longer
than the 1000 would. You can compare this to a light and flimsy vinyl
record on your turntable to a heavily pressed older record. The new
flimsy one will be lighter and spin more freely, whereas the old record
will stop a lot quicker. As I mentionned above, the touch is the same
based on the adjustability of the dial.

One of the coolest features which could draw a lot of people towards the
800 is a cue-marker.

Both the 1000 and 800 have a center-display which shows where the player
is at, indicated by a blank spot in the white lines around the "vinyl"
indicator. The cue marker is a little red triangle that marks where your
cuepoint exists. No more thinking "okay, my cue (the beginning of this
sample) is at 4 o'clock", you can just look at the display and see where
you need to pull the wheel back to. VISUAL CUES!

One more HUGE feature on the 800: Full featured digital out. ALL
functions on the 800 are digital, even the scratching. It's the only CDJ
in the Pioneer line to offer this, and is sure to be a desireable
feature.
As you can see, there's many things that would draw one DJ towards the
800 or towards the 1000. It's a real kicker because both of them have
features you'd want. There is no anticipated replacement for the 1000 in
the near future, this continues to be a top selling deck, and is not
being replaced by the 800 - they compliment eachother."