[Dynagroove] ira...Freaks show...

Lucas Dodson lucas at distantbeat.com
Tue Jun 10 11:10:11 PDT 2003


I have defineatly been there and I think old Jonra has been there too when
your event got busted at that orange studios, I think your party got busted
at what was it 12 am or was it 11:30pm I don't remember,  I didn't see you
trying to give anybody their money back!

Back in 99 I  got to my location for one of my parties and there was a show
goin on there after I had already given 2500 dollars to the location owner
to hold the venue, yeah it sucked!!!  I have now recovered, defineatly have
never made my money back, even got ripped off by some dj 's too, but please,
that's somethin you know when you put your money on the line.

yeah Ira tried to secure a new venue but sometimes that doesn't work.

I hope that we all understand a little more about what it takes to do an
event and with finding locations and getting sound set-up and all  that
junk. Man if it's anything, it's work people.

Lucas
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Annand" <mrannand at hotmail.com>
To: <dynagroove at reelhouse.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] ira...Freaks show...


> I have to agree that the negativity of some of the posts I've been reading
> is completely unwarranted.  I understand being disappointed as an attendee
> when things aren't exactly as advertised but there really isn't any reason
> to be so angry and accusatory towards the promoter.  You all ought to have
> figured out by now that the $10 or $15 or even $20 that you have spent on
a
> party that didn't go as you hoped is a lot less than the $1000, or $2000,
or
> $3000, or more that the promoter loses when things didn't go as he or she
> hoped.  If you feel you were ripped off or misled by a promoter the best
way
> to deal with it is to not pay to go to his/her parties again, not to rip
> his/her head off on a disussion list.  OK, sure, you have a right to post
> your opinion, but try to do it decently and tactfully, and if you say a
> venue sucks try elaborating and telling us why it sucked.  You can better
> communicate your feelings when you cut down on the derogatory remarks and
> swear words and just politely, specifically, point out how you think
things
> can be improved.  We all learn a lot more from that than by reading
another
> flame war.
>
> Isn't the point of dancing to have a release?  If you're so pissed off
about
> the party you were at maybe you should have danced more.  If it ended at 2
> maybe you should have gone home and danced there, you don't have to be at
a
> party to dance you know.  Here's an idea, the next time you find yourself
> inspired to write a negative email why not release that energy dancing
> instead?  Try to focus on the feelings you had when you were first getting
> into this music, before you had expectations and became more experienced,
> more knowledgeable, and more critical.  I'm not directing this at anyone
> specifically, this is a good idea for anyone, myself included.  Let go,
stop
> taking everything so seriously, it's just a party and if the parties are
> stressing you out and making you angry then there's a problem.  Your
problem
> as much as the promoter's, probably more.
>
> Ben
>
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