[Dynagroove] Seperate email lists

Thu Jun 24 14:04:43 PDT 2004

Thats a good idea....

>From: Eric Paul Johnson <epjohnson at mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: Eric Paul Johnson <epjohnson at mindspring.com>
>To: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
>Subject: [Dynagroove] Seperate email lists
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:46:35 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
>
>How bout seperate email lists for the following
>
>A) Event postings only
>
>B) An email list for discussions
>
>and then  C) an email list for Arron's rambleings   =P
>
>ohhh ok.. and  D) a seperate list for Sara's as well   *hehehe*
>
>
>Then promptly sign me up for list A
>
>EPJ
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Brunick <brunick at thestormriders.com>
>Sent: Jun 24, 2004 11:32 AM
>To: michael reyes <mike.r at golden-pacific.com>,
>	Jonra XXX <designforms at hotmail.com>, i&8342930 at hq.newdream.net,
>	dynagroove at dynagroove.com
>Cc: dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com
>Subject: RE: [Dynagroove] who ever started this thread... /yourself &
>dieinafire
>
>I prefer the email-list setup over the forums - people don't always have 
>time
>to go to forums to see what's going on, but it's really not hard to hit
>delete if you're not interested in a particular email, or even thread.
>
>personally, I've been enjoying reading everyone's opinions.
>
>-Mike
>
>--
>The StormRiders
>
>
>---------- Original Message -----------
>From: "michael reyes" <mike.r at golden-pacific.com>
>To: "Jonra XXX" <designforms at hotmail.com>, <i&8342930 at hq.newdream.net>,
><dynagroove at dynagroove.com>
>Sent: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:05:02 -0700
>Subject: RE: [Dynagroove] who ever started this thread... /yourself &
>dieinafire
>
> > THIS is why we need an online FORUM.  so that all of the brilliant minds
> >
> > (such as mine) can post ramblings, opinions, & other garbage without
> > turning the emails of dyna-listers into a chat room. --m
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com
> > [mailto:dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com]On Behalf Of Jonra XXX
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:49 PM
> > To: i&8342930 at hq.newdream.net; dynagroove at dynagroove.com
> > Subject: [Dynagroove] who ever started this thread
> >
> > This is such bullshit............get a fucking life.. does anyone
> > have anything better to do than fill e-mail with bullshit opinions.
> > I mean everyone has their opinion about dj's, but I mean to dis some
> > locals like this is such crap. I mean every dj has off nights ,
> >  event the best big dollar dj's . I have not seen anyone from this
> > list come with mad skills and blow every promoter,dj or producer out
> > of the water and if you think you can bring kid I ask where the fuck
> > are you skills put your money where you mouth is ........ I am
> > calling you out...!  Jonra  DFR...........private responce welcome
> >
> > >From: Will Yardley <i&8342930 at hq.newdream.net>
> > >To: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
> > >Subject: [Dynagroove] Re: I am going to start some trouble...
> > >Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 11:26:17 -0700
> > >
> > >I've been trying to stay out of this thread, but I guess I'll speak
> > >up now.... I'm a little hesitant to disrespect pretty much anyone
> > >who's getting paid more money than I am to play records in front of
> > >people... it's true that people aren't always successful for the
> > >"right" reasons, but almost all of the people mentioned in this thread
> > >have been doing what they're doing for a long time, and have almost
> > >all EARNED the respect that they currently enjoy.  Everyone has their
> > >on nights and off-nights.
> > >
> > >Do I have my personal opinions about some DJs I think are over
> > >/ underrated? For sure - anyone who knows me probably knows
> > >this. However I'm going to try not to get sucked into discussing these
> > >personal preferences on the list, especially the negative ones.
> > >
> > >Since I don't think anyone else said it in this thread, I will repeat 
>my
> > >opinion that Jonathan Lastra is way underrated, and that people should
> > >book him more. And I suck for not going last time someone booked him,
> > >but someone bring back John Acquaviva.
> > >
> > >Anyway, responding to multiple messages... extremely long rants below.
> > >
> > >On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 07:25:19PM -0700, Lucas Dodson wrote:
> > >
> > > > We can start with house..
> > >
> > > > Juan Nunez he has some great tracks but wouldn't you too if you were
> > > > part owner of WAX.. heard this guy trainwreck so many times.
> > > >
> > > > Scott K. Really a nice guy but do I have to go any further...please
> > > > buy new records or do something..oh yeah beat matching is necessary.
> > >
> > >First of all, I think it's kind of uncool to disrespect people who are
> > >on this list (well other than Cade... he deserves it for starting this
> > >thread). I mean props for being honest, I guess.... but try to imagine
> > >how you'd feel if I started a thread about how overrated and horrible
> > >Lucas Dodson is.
> > >
> > >Anyway, Juan... all I can say is that I almost never hear him play 
>where
> > >there aren't at least a few songs that make my ears pick up or where I
> > >have to go ask him "what's this song". Overall I have heard him play
> > >some really good sets and some sets that I wasn't so into - but there's
> > >always at least something there for me -- and since I'm a pretty picky
> > >bastard, that's saying a lot.
> > >
> > >I've already expressed my feelings about the "beat matching" thing. I 
>do
> > >think that it's different for someone like François K. who has been
> > >around for a billion years and CAN beat match but chooses not to...
> > >anyway, I'm not totally into the tyranny of beat matching, but it does
> > >kinda suck when people try to beat match, but trainwreck every mix.
> > >
> > >There are some people who can pull off NOT beat matching very nicely
> > >(David Mancuso comes to mind), and I don't think there's anything wrong
> > >with that. Also, I think I'm less picky than some people... some tracks
> > >are deceptively hard to beatmatch, and I'd personally rather hear good
> > >music than good mixing any day of the week (though of course both is
> > >usually best).
> > >
> > >On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 06:59:07AM -0700, Cade wrote:
> > >
> > > > Eric Davenport    -  Someone knock on this guys door and let him 
>know
> > > > that breaks were mid 90s.  He claims house but the house he plays is
> > > > just dull.  No funk, no bump, and like a techno-breaks edge that I
> > > > despise.
> > >
> > >I haven't heard him play in years, but the CDs I've heard that are
> > >recent don't really interest me much... however my complaint was more
> > >that there wasn't *enough* breaky stuff - sounded like boring crappy
> > >house to me.... I definitely respect this guy, but I'm not really into
> > >the stuff he's doing these days (production or DJing).
> > >
> > >On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 10:30:47AM -0700, D. F. Bacon wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll agree with the person whomever said that Derrick is a totally
> > > > different person in Los Angeles.  I have seen him play in SF, and in
> > > > Miami and I found his sets in both places to be quite a bit more
> > > > interesting than that stuff he plays in big rooms in LA.
> > >
> > >I haven't heard him a lot of times / places in the past 6 or 7 years,
> > >but I think the same may be true of Mark Farina to some degree... I
> > >think a lot of DJs may "dumb it down" a little for LA crowds.
> > >
> > >Are there people who are great producers / bad DJs (or vice versa)? 
>YES.
> > >I have mixed feelings about whether these people should (get booked /
> > >put out records, respectively). But it's not totally fair to expect
> > >people to be great at both - some (lucky) people are, but a lot aren't.
> > >Both things can be huge time / money / energy drains.
> > >
> > >Another truth is that some DJs may feel that they are "expected" to 
>play
> > >a certain type of sound, and they may have found that when they try to
> > >branch out from that too much, the crowds aren't feeling it... or on 
>the
> > >flip side, they may be completely uninterested in the sound that 
>they're
> > >originally known for, and may be playing completely different stuff now
> > >(leading some people to say "so-and-so sucks now").
> > >
> > >The other unfortunate truth is that when promoters book a lot of these
> > >"overrated" DJs (and I'm not going to comment on whether or not I think
> > >they're actually overrated), people show up... and when they book
> > >someone a little more interesting / take risks, they generally don't 
>get
> > >a good crowd. I think that's why we see Heather, Mark Farina, and other
> > >DJs so much.
> > >
> > >Bottom line, I think supporting talent you like / respect is the best
> > >way to deal with this... think someone's overrated? Well don't f'n go
> > >see them play. Think someone's underrated and totally rocks? Go see 
>them
> > >play when someone finally books them - and convince all your friends to
> > >go too.
> > >
> > >I try not to think too much about whether someone mixes well or not,
> > >whether they've played the same tracks a billion times before, or
> > >whatever. All of these things *may* mean that someone sucks - but I
> > >think the end result is what counts... is the person making me want to
> > >dance? Is the person making everyone else in the room want to dance?
> > >That's kind of the point.
> > >
> > >Lastly, to be honest, I don't see how starting a thread like this ON
> > >PURPOSE is really constructive; even though Cade tried to keep it
> > >light-hearted, and even made fun of himself a little, I don't really 
>see
> > >what talking about all this negative stuff accomplishes - and I'm
> > >generally a pretty negative person myself. I think that trashing people
> > >who are on this list or who are likely to read it is especially uncool.
> > >
> > >--
> > >"Since when is skepticism un-American?
> > >Dissent's not treason but they talk like it's the same..."
> > >(Sleater-Kinney - "Combat Rock")
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