[Dynagroove] Don?t Give Into The Submission...

[William Yardley]

On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 12:03:01PM -0500, badiye at aol.com wrote:

> 5.  If the cream of the crop of Hip Hop is the stuff you see on TV,
> then THAT's Hip Hop's leading message.  Period.  Like it or not Hip
> Hop is currently associated with the wonderful social messages of 50
> cents and common.

ps - The message of almost *any* music you see on TV is going to be
crap, almost by definition. That's really pop music, more than anything
else. So you're comparing apples and oranges, since:

 1) Most house music doesn't really *have* a message all.
 2) You don't really hear much house music on commercial Radio or TV;
    i.e., it's not really pop music
 3) House music is mostly underground* music... if you're going to
    compare, you should compare it to underground hip-hop. "working so
    hard" and "digging deeper" is part of that.

(Also, while I don't agree with everything Common says, I don't know if
he's exactly the best example of a BAD message either.)

> Why must the rest of us work so hard  to dig deeper to find the
> so-called TRUE hip hop message.  This is perverse logic.  YOU change
> your LEAD message and maybe then we'll change our minds, not the other
> way around.

And how, pray tell, are we going to find the TRUE house music message?

Can you consider for 5 seconds the notion that maybe there isn't a
single "TRUE" message respresenting an entire large, fairly diverse
group of people?

w

* Ok - a loaded word.... by underground, I just mean "not widely
represented in mainstream media".