[Dynagroove] Don?t Give Into The Submission...
D. F. Bacon
djivluv05 at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 6 15:15:03 PST 2005
And to add to that, I was attacking what you said not
you personally Imad.
Ive never even met you.
I simply found it ironic that you claim to be about
love and peace and community and then you were willing
to reject a group of people who obviously wish to
build a positive community like you based upon what
they like to listen to..
either you aren't really about what you say you are or
you need to rethink what you said. I don't think you
can be about both and still believe your position is
legitimate.
--- aaron at tohzt.com wrote:
> I definitely see your point, but I dont think it's
> fair to generalize hip
> hop (or any form of musical culture) by what the
> mainstream conveyance or
> example is. The artists that are trying to set
> positive trends in hip hop
> already have to fight for a spotlight and wide
> generalizations like this
> only keep the spotlight on the negative. I think
> hip hop in many ways is
> a culture of "struggle" and who is to say that this
> has a less important
> end than one of "community" or "love."
>
> stay cool,
>
> A
>
>
> in response to:
> BadIYE at aol.com<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> > thanks for your input Aaron. Here are my quick
> responses:
> >
> > 1. While those of us with strong will personality
> can get theirs outside
> > of
> > the mainstream, and be better off in doing so, one
> can't truly dispute
> > the
> > undue influence the younger generation sustains at
> the hand of mainstream
> > media powerhouses. It is literally a
> technologically advanced, media
> > researched,
> > gigantic peer pressure factory. Very tough to
> ignore and/or reject for
> > most
> > 17 year olds. Oddly, and thankfully, it is on the
> internet that most
> > youths
> > have found alternatives...
> >
> > 2. Pointing out debatable exceptions in Hip Hop
> only reinforces the
> > rule.
> > Hip Hop's main message is a dubiously negative
> one, at best. Get yours,
> > Bling Bling, Get all the hoes and bitches and make
> it big (sell crack if
> > you have
> > to). It doesn't seek common ground, it seeks to
> celebrate differences
> > (East
> > Coast, West Coast - Mine, Yours - even cities [The
> LBC - Compton] are a
> > source of pride and antagonism - like bedouin
> tribes during the dark
> > ages.
> > utterly ridiculous]
> >
> > 3. For argument sake, let's assume that the
> Leading message for the
> > house
> > music scene is that of the cheeziest DJs and
> producers such as Paul Van
> > Dyk
> > and company. Even at THAT level of fromage, It
> REMAINS 100% more
> > positive
> > than that of the Hip Hop message. Unless I've
> missed something, the "Van
> > Dyk"
> > message is still "come out and dance and
> celebrate each others humanity,
> > and
> > forget your differences, on the floor". Right?
> so%2
>
>
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