[Dynagroove] Don?t Give Into The Submission...

D. F. Bacon djivluv05 at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 6 15:15:03 PST 2005


And to add to that, I was attacking what you said not
you personally Imad. 

Ive never even met you. 

I simply found it ironic that you claim to be about
love and peace and community and then you were willing
to reject a group of people who obviously wish to
build a positive community like you based upon what
they like to listen to.. 

either you aren't really about what you say you are or
you need to rethink what you said. I don't think you
can be about both and still believe your position is
legitimate. 



--- aaron at tohzt.com wrote:

> I definitely see your point, but I dont think it's
> fair to generalize hip
> hop (or any form of musical culture) by what the
> mainstream conveyance or
> example is.  The artists that are trying to set
> positive trends in hip hop
> already have to fight for a spotlight and wide
> generalizations like this
> only keep the spotlight on the negative.  I think
> hip hop in many ways is
> a culture of "struggle" and who is to say that this
> has a less important
> end than one of "community" or "love."
> 
> stay cool,
> 
> A
> 
> 
> in response to:
> BadIYE at aol.com<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> > thanks for your input Aaron.  Here are my quick
> responses:
> >
> > 1.  While those of us with strong will personality
> can get theirs  outside
> > of
> > the mainstream, and be better off in doing so, one
> can't truly  dispute
> > the
> > undue influence the younger generation sustains at
> the hand of  mainstream
> > media powerhouses.  It is literally a
> technologically advanced,  media
> > researched,
> > gigantic peer pressure factory.  Very tough to
> ignore  and/or reject for
> > most
> > 17 year olds.  Oddly, and thankfully, it is on the
>  internet that most
> > youths
> > have found alternatives...
> >
> > 2.  Pointing out debatable exceptions in Hip Hop
> only reinforces  the
> > rule.
> > Hip Hop's main message is a dubiously negative
> one, at  best.  Get yours,
> > Bling Bling, Get all the hoes and bitches and make
> it big  (sell crack if
> > you have
> > to).  It doesn't seek common ground, it seeks to 
> celebrate differences
> > (East
> > Coast, West Coast - Mine, Yours - even cities [The
>  LBC - Compton] are a
> > source of pride and antagonism - like bedouin
> tribes during  the dark
> > ages.
> > utterly ridiculous]
> >
> > 3.   For argument sake, let's assume that the
> Leading message for  the
> > house
> > music scene is that of the cheeziest DJs and
> producers such as Paul  Van
> > Dyk
> > and company.  Even at THAT level of fromage,  It
> REMAINS 100% more
> > positive
> > than that of the Hip Hop message.   Unless I've
> missed something, the "Van
> > Dyk"
> > message is still "come out  and dance and
> celebrate each others humanity,
> > and
> > forget your  differences, on the floor". Right? 
> so%2
> 
> 



		
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