[Dynagroove] Some comments please

[Ben Annand]

Well honestly I don't like the Rane rotary 2016 much but I do think Ranes 
are made way better made than Pioneers - they sound better, they record 
better, they don't distort as much when the djs push the volume, and they 
don't break as much.  They don't have effects so amateur djs don't get to 
flange every mix, which is nice too.  I agree it's totally annoying to hear 
how everyone's dream mixer is the Rane rotary 2016 - particularly those who 
have never actually used one before (or they might realize that the way it's 
laid out is actually a big pain in the ass.  Also I think it's funny to hear 
people talk about how much everyone loves rotary mixing in Europe depsite 
the fact that every European dj I've brought hates it and says that very few 
people use rotary mixers there I (can't recall ever mising on one there 
myself).  I think that was another cool thing to say, that it's more 
European to use a rotary, wow...  Anyway, I think the Pioneer 500 or 600 is 
a good mixer, better than average, certainly preferable to Stanton, Numark, 
and most of the rest.  But I will take a non-rotary Rane (MP 44) or an Allen 
and Heath over a Pioneer anyday.  But this is just my opinion and the truth 
is, if I show up for a gig and it's a Rane, Allen and Heath, or Pioneer, I 
am totally happy with it.  And if it's something else I'm not going to 
complain as long as it's working ok.  Definitely more important than 
anything is to have a fun crowd to play for.  A wack mixer and a wack crowd 
is not too much fun though, try to avoid that combo :)

Ben


>From: "Lucas Dodson" <lucas at distantbeat.com>
>To: "DAUS ." <daus_77 at hotmail.com>, <dynagroove at dynagroove.com>
>Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] Some comments please
>Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:18:16 -0700
>
>Frankie bones was the first to speak out against the DJM 500
>he hates and denounced it numerous magazines..
>  I don't know how long that guy has been spinning but I think it's about 
>20
>years....
>
>  I haven't had any Dj's complain about the pioneer
>
>they say it's the industry standard now a days.
>
>if you don't at least one djm 500 get out of the sound business.....
>
>when I get a request for a rane rotarty it's just more work for me be cause
>the thing is so damn expensive I have to charge 75 bucks more to rent it...
>
>Lucas
>distant beat sound
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DAUS ." <daus_77 at hotmail.com>
>To: <dynagroove at dynagroove.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] Some comments please
>
>
> > This is funny. I find that sometimes when out and about, and talking 
>with
> > any various DJ "x" that I may meet, many just try to make feeble 
>attempts
>to
> > elevate their own self worth. You can be at a club, and there's usually
>one
> > individual who will dissect the entire sound system down to its' most
> > discreet flaw just to give the self-impression of him being the only one
>in
> > the facility who knows what quality sound equipment is. Many of these 
>DJ's
> > complaining about the gear should do what a lot of the globally 
>recognized
> > DJ's do, .... bring your own gear.(!) If they really are concerned with
>the
> > provided audio equipment being sub-par, or not up to their own personal
> > standards, then they should be prepared with their own personal 
>equipment
>to
> > utilize during their sets.
> >
> > A lot of these guys are probably just blowing a 2 ton bag of smoked B.S.
> > anyway. They know they're at home mixing with the stock cartridges that
>came
> > with the decks. They probably read an article about a RANE rotary, or
>heard
> > his/her favourite Superstar DJ  make mention of an ALLEN & HEATH, so now
>he
> > has to assume the role of spokesperson and connoisseur of all things
> > supremely superior and expensive. Rubbish. I say keep the snobbish
>attitude
> > subsided, and just rock on whatever is offered. I can recall an event at
> > which I agreed to play, and much to my chagrin on arrival, what do I see
> > anchoring an equally less impressive mixer, but two Gemini belt driven
> > decks. But the crowd was alive and happy, but I pushed through and ended
>up
> > learning something pleasant about my own talents. Sorry to ramble, but
>it's
> > SO annoying to see this type of arrogance from some people.
> >
> > Ciao.
> >
> >
> > Cade <con at dynagroove.com> wrote:
> > Being someone that books a lot of people in my 6+ years of doing
> > event/parties. I find my patience grows more and more thin with DJs. My
> > biggest problem lately has been DJs who complain about the equipment 
>being
> > provided. I have a DJM500 which i have been using for many years it has
> > undergone surgery 4 times to fix channels and other various things like
> > missing knobs and so such. But now I get DJs coming up to me and
> > complaining about the 500. 4 years ago you would be thanking the heavens
> > for a 500. But now I have DJs coming up to me and going "You should
> > really use the rane knob mixer" or the urie. Both of which are like 
>$1100.
> > Call my a bit jaded but most DJs have no regard for my equipment and 
>tend
> > to break it. I am sure it is much more expensive to fix these mixers 
>then
> > the mass manufactured Pioneers. I find the pioneer may not be the best
> > sounding mixer but most DJs are familiar with it and it is rugged.
> > Another problem I have is with needles. I use ortophone needles to cut
> > down on feedback and prevent skipping. Again they may not sound the best
> > but they are rugged. A DJ arrives and will start complaining. In this
> > matter I believe a DJ should supply their own needles. Some DJs may 
>sound
> > better with certain needles and I am all for this. Am I just being an
> > annoyed jaded ass or do I have reasonable reasons for doing what I do?
> >
> >
> > Cade
> >
> >
> >
> > Cade <con at dynagroove.com> wrote:
> > Being someone that books a lot of people in my 6+ years of doing
> > event/parties. I find my patience grows more and more thin with DJs. My
> > biggest problem lately has been DJs who complain about the equipment 
>being
> > provided. I have a DJM500 which i have been using for many years it has
> > undergone surgery 4 times to fix channels and other various things like
> > missing knobs and so such. But now I get DJs coming up to me and
> > complaining about the 500. 4 years ago you would be thanking the heavens
> > for a 500. But now I have DJs coming up to me and going "You should
> > really use the rane knob mixer" or the urie. Both of which are like 
>$1100.
> > Call my a bit jaded but most DJs have no regard for my equipment and 
>tend
> > to break it. I am sure it is much more expensive to fix these mixers 
>then
> > the mass manufactured Pioneers. I find the pioneer may not be the best
> > sounding mixer but most DJs are familiar with it and it is rugged.
> > Another problem I have is with needles. I use ortophone needles to cut
> > down on feedback and prevent skipping. Again they may not sound the best
> > but they are rugged. A DJ arrives and will start complaining. In this
> > matter I believe a DJ should supply their own needles. Some DJs may 
>sound
> > better with certain needles and I am all for this. Am I just being an
> > annoyed jaded ass or do I have reasonable reasons for doing what I do?
> >
> >
> > Cade
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