[Dynagroove] WTF! Does no one care about DIZ anymore???
D. F. Bacon
djivluv05 at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 19 22:54:48 PDT 2006
Greetings, I have no idea who you are.. but when a
woman you (I presume)don't know asks you a question in
a public forum and you answer with a "sweetie"
attached to the back-end its sounds very condescending
in the least, and at worst sexist.
I am not accusing you of either, but I am just telling
you what it looks like from the outside. For all I
know you could be a woman.
Secondly, because you appear to have a different
definition of what House music is, could you please
define what house music is?
Let's not beat around the bush. I bet if you give us
your definition, and others give there the difference
will be so miniscule it will be insignificant.
But first things first ChoiceSaturdays.. what is house
music?
Mister Bacon
--- Choice Saturdays <choicesaturdays at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Let me answer your questions, sweetie.
>
> First, I'm not currently residing in NYC.
>
> Second, I'm on an LA mailing list because I'm in the
> local area and I do see
> some interesting conversations on this mailing list
> and some interesting
> parties.
>
> Lastly, I have every right to comment on THIS scene
> because I've been in it
> for a long time and have seen how things are HERE.
> If you want that NY
> sound in LA then you just have to dig. If you want
> that "Diz" type sound
> then you'll find it all over LA like a fish finds
> water, but to me that is
> NOT my idea of House. You and everyone else may
> call it that but I think of
> it as just "repetitive/looping/no creativity" type
> of Dance music.
>
> No shit about things change quickly. Did you just
> figure that out? That's
> life. Change happens EVERY second.
>
> I think I have a pretty good idea about where this
> music started but thanks
> for the quick lesson. Should I shake your hand now
> or later?
>
> If you wanted to discuss this matter privately then
> why CC the list? But
> I'm the ignorant one? Ok...
>
> LA in my opinion sucks and I have EVERY right to
> express my opinion about
> it. If you don't like it then you have that right
> as well. In addition, I
> have EVERY right to respond to what I see as
> ignorant comments about how NYC
> sucks. They set the standard for what this music is
> NOT Los Angeles.
> Period. They've been setting the trend for this
> music and most forms of
> music as well as many other features.
>
> On a last note I'd HIGHLY recommend you buy AND read
> the following book if
> you'd really like to get a better understanding of
> what NYC has contributed
> to Dance music from its birth to its current state:
>
> "LOVE SAVES THE DAY"
>
> To dis NYC, the birthplace of the music that YOU and
> I call House IS
> ignorant.
>
> My two cents.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amy Ricketts [mailto:amyr at dynagroove.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 2:15 AM
> To: Choice Saturdays
> Cc: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
> Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] WTF! Does no one care
> about DIZ anymore???
>
> Dear Bitter NYC defendant,
>
> Are you currently residing in NYC?
>
> If so, WHY are you on an LA mailing list?
>
> If not, then you have NO AUTHORITY to comment on the
> CURRENT NYC house
> Scene. Period.
>
> Shit changes. QUICKLY.
>
> Just because a city had a great scene at ONE time
> does NOT mean it will
> ALWAYS be great.
>
> And in case you didn't know, "HOUSE" is from CHICAGO
> (via the
> Ware"house"), where DIZ is FROM and CURRENTLY
> RESIDES.
>
> NYC, on the other hand, is responsible for "GARAGE"
> (via "Paradise
> Garage".)
>
> And there were WAY MORE "candy kids" in NYC than in
> Chicago or ANYWHERE
> else.
>
> I think it is YOU who are "pretty ignorant about
> this music and its roots"
> and NOT the author to which you responded.
>
> I'd be glad to discuss this matter further. Please
> reply privately.
>
> Miss Amy Ricketts
>
> Los Angeles via Detroit.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Are you guys serious? LA sucks big time!!! LA
> knows NOTHING about House
> > except for a handful of people. NYC is the
> foundation for what we call
> > House music so to dis the city that gave birth to
> the original form of
> > House
> > (a.k.a Disco) you'd have to be pretty ignorant
> about this music and its
> > roots. LA knows tech, funky or whatever other
> stupid label people in the
> > scene give it. I'm sorry but Diz is NOT House IMO
> and I consider it to be
> > electronic dance music for the younger crowd that
> is new to the scene or
> > those that never grew out of their "candy kid
> raver" mentality. By all
> > means, NYC defines what House music and they pave
> the way to what it will
> > be
> > in the future NOT Los Angeles. My two cents.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com
> > [mailto:dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com] On
> Behalf Of Bonnie Marie
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:10 PM
> > To: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
> > Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] WTF! Does no one care
> about DIZ anymore???
> >
> > In response to Cade's commentary on the house
> scene in NYC, he indeed is
> > correct: LA f-ing rocks.
> >
> > ...but new york doesn't completely blow...
> >
> > I too have been in New York since the end of July,
> and it took me a few
> > tries to find some places that I enjoyed
> immensely. One of the best
> > parties
> > i've been to in a LONG time is on Wednesdays at
> Sin Sin, it's called
> > Soulgasm. If you ever come to NY, you GOTTA check
> that one out. I don't
> > even know the names of the DJs but the music is
> always on point, and the
> > crowd is even better. i mean, really.
> >
> > Glenn Underground rocked me last week-- i didn't
> recognize a single
> > record,
> > but my ass was on the dance floor all night (maybe
> why I didn't see you
> > there, Cade? hmmmmm...?)
> >
> > The outdoor day parties have been off the hook,
> too-- one of 'em in
> > Brooklyn
> > at Fort Greene Park on Sundays (live vocalists!),
> and also PS1 in Queens
> > on
> > Saturdays was a great place to chill.
> >
> > Saw Gene Farris a couple weeks ago too-- he was
> playing a GREAT set, but
> > there wasnt that many people there, which was a
> shame. ah well, gave me
> > more room to dance! =) I talked to gene later
> that night and he said that
> > the promoter just isn't cuttin it, which is why
> the place isnt going off.
> >
> > So it took a little tenacity to find some proper
> places to go with a good
> > crowd, but i do have to agree-- the LA house scene
> is pretty much where
> > it's
>
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