[Dynagroove] july 29th -- John Howard

Sat Jun 17 17:17:16 PDT 2006

wow, I wasn't even the one in this conflict in the beginning...lol.  I was just giving my two cents.  There was also a lot said by a certain someone that wasn't said on this list, which is why I stuck up for the people who were getting shit talked.  Anyhow, lots of good points.  No, I agree, everyone's opinion is there own...I just don't condone being mean for no reason, so I was merely calling him out for that.  Plus, it's one thing to tell a dj you didn't like one of their sets and another to tell every other person that they suck and can't beat match to save their life.  ...or to talk about stereotypes on dynagroove and then call someone gay.  That's just lame.  I was just trying to let him know that if he's going to talk shit on everyone behind their back and then talk more shit on the list, then it's going to come right back - ten fold.  

I love our little community we have.  I hate when djs come up to me and started talking crap about other djs...and believe me, the things that were said to me were not the things that were posted.  I don't like when someone tells a dj that they can throw it down, but then walks up to another person and says somehting like, "man, so and so sucks ass...all they do is train wreck."  For goodness sake, if you feel that way, tell that dj, because if you really think that then maybe some constructive criticism will help that dj to better himself, instead of talking behind their back which will only cause problems in the long run.  

LA is our home...and this scene is our family...let's act like it and respect eachother enough to stop being caddy...life is too short.  And I do agree with Alex & Theory...we all should keep it real.  We just should make sure we're doing it in the right way (being honest with each other instead of talking about things behind anyone's back and causing unnecessary drama on a message board that is supposed to be used for event related things, music, etc. 

Enough said.  Now, what's going on tonight?  Let's party!  :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Theory Abstract <abstractjazz at gmail.com>
To: dynagroove at dynagroove.com; thelovelymissv at aol.com; djalexd77 at yahoo.com
Sent: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:55:57 -0700
Subject: Re: july 29th -- John Howard

geez.. thanks guys for reminding me of one of the reasons why I left LA. 

1st of all.. shit on an email can be taken out of context. I've 
learned this lesson years ago when I was kid. I used to fight and 
battle with a few people on the dyna board (and believe me missv it 
was a lot worse than this!), But then I would meet the person I was 
arguing with in real life and usually became good friends with them. 
now till this day we laugh our asses off about "good ole days", cuz it 
was fun sometimes stirring up discussion and learning peoples 
different opinions. everyone wants their views to be heard and 
appreciated by someone. 

by all means peeps speak your opinion on the board I know that cade 
even gets tired sometimes of just seeing promotion promotion 
promotion. ok folks we get it, everyone and their mom wants to be a dj 
and throw their own parties. there is a new party every night of the 
week and 90% of them suck, and 99% of the people are afraid to tell 
the promoters the truth of how they feel cuz they would rather try to 
get themselves booked so that they can get their name out more and 
post their name at the top of the dj list on the "dynagroove" board. 
that makes people feel real special about themselves. (wink) 

2nd. am I wrong or was alex just joking around at first? I don't 
think he means any harm, he is a friend of mine as well as toddley & 
missv (I think). whether you people know it or not, I miss A LOT of 
you folks to pieces. I don't even care anymore if you miss me or not, 
cuz I've had some great times with yall in LA and that is what it 
should be all about. 

however, It's actually hard to know who your real friends are in the 
city of LA because there is so much shit talking going on. I'm sure 
there are people out there mad at me for reasons beyond my control and 
probably for reasons that I don't even know of. But i'm not hatin on 
anyone and that's my new attitude in the game. take it or leave it. 

all the shit talking is becoming sickening and you people need to 
realize that it's really fucking shit up out there! 

and to missv, your not the promoter & dj authority. your very 
respected and a very hard working promoter, no one deny's that, but 
again that is just in one circle of many that make up "the scene" 
entirely. you have to let people speak thier minds and express their 
opinions. If someone doesn't like the way a dj sounds or thieir not 
happy with the outcome of a party by all means they should be allowed 
to express it. you have to take the positive with the negative and 
find a balance. but give more people a chance naw mean?? 

some dj's know how to politic and keep their opinions to theirself 
which is why they may be liked and booked more often, but are they 
really being booked for the right reasons? attitude does mean 
everything, but SO DOES TALENT PEOPLE! it seems the LA mentality of a 
real attitude is mad twisted right now, and i'm not afriad to say it. 
I think people are mistaking all the ass kissing that is going on for 
a good attitude, but I think the person that is honest and upfront 
with their shit in a positive manner should be the one respected over 
the ass kissers. Because anyone who is unsure of their real talent as 
whatever it may be (dj, promoter, producer) is going to result in ass 
kissing and politics to get ahead.. I can see thru bullshit easier 
these days cuz i've had so much of it thrown my way, but can yall?? 

you guys are sounding like damn house nazi's.. maybe alex is a little 
tired of the same dj's and the same bullshit as was I and I have 
expressed my opinion at some points. but I will never say something 
behind someones back that can't be said to their face. yet too many of 
you people are afraid to confront each other and work your issues out 
with one another, instead you would rather tear each other down. I 
think it is noble of alex at the end of his post to invite people to 
discuss these issues to his face, and that is what should be done. 

I really hope yall work it out. I'm just stepping in cuz I personally 
know everyone in the mix here and this is something I've been needing 
to get off my back for awhile now, and I truly hope that no one takes 
it the wrong way, which i'm sure someone will, but ohhhhhhh well! 
=) 

ps - mad props to some of the hard working and talented folks in the 
scene like - Missv, toddley, alex d and the list can go on and on and 
on.... 

give each other another chance will ya? 

also, to Alex D (your new tracks are fuckin dope as hell and anyone 
who doesn't realize and respect that doesn't deserve to be blessed 
with your shit). also props out to big head bobby bounce, my number 1 
hater, love ya brotha! Tyler Matson not sure you realize this but 
I've been slamming the hell out of your new tracks and everyone in the 
desert and surrounding cities are diggin! big ups to hippy ass Rylan 
also, FIX YOUR BUS and send me those damn parts already! ok i've got 
many more shouts but I gotta go.. 

keep it real yall! 

> --- thelovelymissv at aol.com wrote: 
> 
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:48:22 -0400 
> > From: thelovelymissv at aol.com 
> > CC: dynagroove at dynagroove.com, 
> > HowseMusic420 at aol.com, zackhill at vinyltribe.com 
> > Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] july 29th -- John Howard, 
> > Justin Martin 
> > To: djalexd77 at yahoo.com, benjamin at bodyrockdjs.com 
> > 
> > I don't think you're offending anyone, but you sure 
> > are making yourself sound like a jack ass. I don't 
> > think I've seen drama like this on a list in 
> > years...or what you would LIKE to be drama anyways. 
> > Maybe you finally realized that none of us were ever 
> > booking you ever again since you've talked so much 
> > shit on other djs, so you thought "the hell with it" 
> > and decided if you're already disliked, what would a 
> > little more shit talking on the dynagroove list 
> > hurt. I find it funny and sad at the same time. 
> > It's sad that you act this way...so very very sad 
> > that you feel the need to try to put other people 
> > down...and publicly to all the people who have at 
> > one time or another booked you or thought of you as 
> > a friend. 
> > 
> > Why don't you tell the whole list what you think of 
> > all our beloved L.A. djs? Come on...you seem to 
> > have such an opinion about all of them...I'm sure 
> > everyone would like to hear it. 
> > 
> > All I gotta say is...nice (and respectable) djs 
> > finish first... :) 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: alessandro pepperoni <djalexd77 at yahoo.com> 
> > To: benjamin at bodyrockdjs.com 
> > Cc: dynagroove at dynagroove.com 
> > Sent: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:33:52 -0700 (PDT) 
> > Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] july 29th -- John Howard, 
> > Justin Martin 
> > 
> > 
> > someone once told me its easy to offend people 
> > here. 
> > lol...i guess its true. 
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On 6/17/06, alessandro pepperoni <djalexd77 at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> oops...looks like i offended you too. im glad i 
> sound like a jack ass. i dont care. first off i was 
> never really booked anyway and im sure i could have 
> played more if i put the effort into it but i just 
> didn't want to. its not that important to me. i mean i 
> do love the music and certain artist and certain 
> people but it its never been my priority. i remember a 
> long ass time ago you said to me "hey you should make 
> some more cd's and make labels for them and promote 
> yourself in a better way" i thanked you and i really 
> appreciated it, and the same thanks goes for anyone 
> else who has tried to help me. the truth is i never 
> took certain opportunities because i really didn't 
> care to become a working dj. i love the music and i 
> like hanging with my friends at clubs from time to 
> time. 
> 
> now, i can bring myself down to your level and try to 
> embarrass you on this shit but i wont, its not really 
> my style. we've hung out in the past quite a few 
> times, ( NO...NOT IN THAT WAY PEOPLE!!!) and you, out 
> of many people on this site should know this about me. 
> 
> 
> anyhow since your calling me out, i'll voice my 
> opinion. its not wrong or right, its just how i feel. 
> is there some kind of rule that i've missed here which 
> says i cant make my own opinion? i always say what i 
> feel and some of my close friends would tell you 
> (which is like 2 friends by the way) that i always 
> criticize them. i'll say "yo that mix was gay you 
> fucking suck" and they say "ha ha i know" and same 
> goes with them. when i make mistakes (which is all the 
> time) they say "that shit was lame alex" and i say "ha 
> ha fuck you who cares" and i continue to have a good 
> time. 
> 
> there are certain people that have rubbed me the wrong 
> way for really no reason at all and at the same time 
> there are people here that have a pompous attitude. 
> toddley for instance is a cool individual but from 
> time to time can be very cocky and rude and has been 
> this way towards me for some reason or another. yeah 
> i've said you suck and that you still cant 
> consistently hold down a solid mix and bring it like 
> you should. always playing in safe mode record to 
> record boring bullshit. and i'm not the only one that 
> feels this way. im sorry to use you as an example but 
> you just happen to be the most relevant choice at this 
> time. but i have also said. damn that fool rocked that 
> shit. 
> 
> same goes to my close friends. one of my best friends 
> (since were name calling here) bobby fucking bounce 
> who has major fucking attitude and did develop a big 
> head because he's made some tracks and is starting to 
> get some recognition. (just to let you all know the 
> BIG head has started to deflate but unfortunately has 
> been passed on too our homie tyler matson.) i tell 
> them all the time "that was horrible or that track is 
> gay" they do the same with me. i think my tracks suck 
> and i think my djying is horrible at times but i never 
> act like im some super star that needs to have 
> attitude. 
> 
> anyhow i have to go but the point here is yes i have 
> talked shit and its because i've been disappointed by 
> the cockiness of this scene. the truth is, EVERYONE 
> TALKS SHIT...im not the only one so who fucking 
> cares...just go out, have a good time and drop the 
> TUDE boys and girsl... 
> 
> 
> ~A 
> 
> ps. when people see me out and if you hate me more 
> after this post i'll understand. but i strongly 
> suggest you come up to me and talk to me and just kik 
> it without the attitude. like i said its really all 
> love. i love you todd and bob and tyler and many 
> others, although we can all be little bitches 
> sometimes. its just an artist thing... 
> 
> love you too miss b for brat... 
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