[Dynagroove] is house music dying?

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From: bonnietseng at mindspring.com

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:49:55 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
To: <amyr at dynagroove.com>
Cc: <dynagroove at dynagroove.com>
Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] is house music dying?


House is not dying... has anyone on this list gone out in another major city lately? If not, you should feel good that house dominates the dance and lounge scenes in places like New York, Chicago, Atlanta, S.F. etc. because it is intelligent, cool, and crosses all borders in terms of the type of people that listen to it or dance to it. Where I am from, everyone likes going out and we will hit up 3-4 places and afterhours in any given night. All places have a house DJ. Everyone listens to house whether it's piped in as background beats in a bar or restaurant, or if it's a full on dance event. If house music is dying, then lounges are dying too...yeah, fat chance of people getting tired of looking pretty and drinking cocktails! Not to mention, house is strong in Europe.

the major difference why people may be a bit jaded here or tired of the L.A. house "scene" is that there are just so many choices in any given night that it seems to make the crowd smaller. We are in Hollywood after all, and our location makes it attractive to many of the best DJ's in the world, house or not. In the scene, there are your Doc fans, there are your Lillyanne fans, and there are your international house DJ's. Is that all house? The scene gets split up and we don't just all meet up at one afterhours at 4AM cuz there's so many things to do, or we just spent all our money at something earlier. 

Other choices can be very played out or unencouraging because they are so popular that it seems to have lost it's soul no matter how good the DJ (i.e. Avalon, Deep, Circus, etc.). If you end up going to something like that earlier, you are probably broke enough to not consider going to another $30 party. Also there are a lot of juxtapositions here. Take for example the Space Island 1/2 house 1/2 Burning Man party a few months ago. Was that a house party, or a Burner event? So, would that be house dying because it's not a pure househead event and another "scene" is there? did it deter heads from showing up? absolutely.  

If you take it completely underground, things get a bit grungy, and not everyone can hang in that scene no matter how much they like house. Keep in mind that your perceptions of fewer househeads out or the scene "dying" is totally skewed to your limited choice of what you chose to go to for the night. If you were to party hop (which costs less in other towns) you'd see that house is definitely alive. 

I'll leave you with this, If house is dying, why does it seem that all of San Francisco has relocated or co-located to LA in the past few years??? 

House 4ever!
XXOO
Bonnie

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>From: Amy Ricketts <amyr at dynagroove.com>
>Sent: Oct 20, 2008 5:37 PM
>To: boxmusicla at aol.com
>Cc: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
>Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] is house music dying?
>
>I have to say that Scott's response to this thread is one of the most
>thoughtful and intelligent (not to mention grammatically correct;)
>responses I've ever read on this list. Well said, my friend.
>
>And now of course, for my two dollars...
>
>I LOVE house music. It is a very large part of WHO I AM.  House music
>courses through my veins and at the end of the day, it's the ONE THING in
>my life that I know will ALWAYS make me happy.  There is NOTHING that I
>love more than dancing with my eyes closed smack in front of a speaker
>with plenty of room to dance to my favorite house DJ. (Okay, maybe there
>is ONE thing I love more. But I digress...)
>
>I am 33, and I plan to keep dancing to house music as long as I can stand
>on my own two feet.
>
>I know there are PLENTY of other people out there, my age, older, and
>younger, who feel the same way that I do.
>
>And as long as WE'RE alive, then HOUSE MUSIC IS ALIVE AND WELL.
>
>House music all night long, (say what?)
>Amy Ricketts
>
>ps: if you skipped the Do Over last Sunday you missed an INCREDIBLE DJ
>Spinna set.  Eye of the muthafuggin Tiger!!!!!!!!!  The word on the street
>is that a certain DJ that is playing LA later this week may be playing
>there next Sunday.  No guarantees, but ya might wanna check that ish out.
>I'm just sayin...
>
>
>
>>  great question, and some great responses. figured i'd throw my two cents
>> in also.
>>
>> house is not dead. in fact, here in LA the scene is better than in many
>> cities....including, and i hope i don't go to house hell for saying this,
>> chicago.? the sheer talent in this this city on any given night is crazy.
>> you have amazingly talented local dj's, crews, and parties (vinyl tribe,
>> bodyrock, dynagroove, deep, focus, the feel up, balance, b3, sarcastic
>> disco...i could go on and on). Plus you have amazing talent from around
>> the world visiting weekly (farina, vega, sneak, hercules & love affair,
>> harvey, etc).
>>
>> being jaded is a natural phenomena. you may love house music....it may be
>> your life (it's definitely mine)....but people just normally don't feel as
>> excited about something as they do when it's new to them.? doesn't mean
>> you can't have some beautiful experiences, but to expect EVERY party to
>> feel the way it did when you were young and new to the scene is probably
>> expecting too much.? Just like a little kid can have fun playing with a
>> cardboard box, we MADE every party fun, whether it really was or not. As
>> you get older and more experienced, the cardboard box doesn't really
>> satisy us much anymore. that's normal...but it doesn't translate to the
>> scene dieing.
>>
>> i was standing behind louie vega at deep last week, and someone whispered
>> in my ear that the party really sucked tonight. really? now if you don't
>> like a particular song, i get that. but just in general, louie vega
>> sucks?, the funktion1 soundsytem sucks?? meanwhile, i'm standing there
>> looking out into what i'm guessing was about 1000 people, dancing
>> sweating, hands in the air.? almost all of our local
>> promoters and dj's work their asses off to put these events together.
>> and i think it's safe to say that if you really analyzed the party or
>> the dj, rarely does the party or the dj really suck. the ingredients for a
>> great party
>> are almost always there. we just have to be more open to the idea that
>> when it comes down to it, WE make our own fun.? some dj's may move you
>> more than others, but few that actually get deck-time at a decent party
>> really suck. i think many people give the dj TOO much credit for a great
>> night. the music is important of course, but in the end, if you wanna have
>> a bad time, you will. if you wanna have a great time, you will.
>>
>> and as far as house being for nerds?? : )? i'm not sure where that came
>> from. in chicago, when house first started i remember clearly going to
>> places like The Music Box, LaMirage, The Powerhouse, etc.? Those clubs had
>> two main types of people? 1) Black gays....and not nerdy gay. i'm talking
>> full-on dressed up in williwear and fake gucci, incredibly self-confident
>> gay. and 2) Black gangsters from the worst projects in the country (robert
>> taylor homes, cabrini green, ida b. wells, etc).? This was house....there
>> were no "nerds"...not that i'm descriminating against nerds, but there
>> just weren't any.? There was no E community where everyone could feel
>> loved. There was weed, boonesfarm, maddog, and occassionaly thaisticks. My
>> point is that there was no artificial drug like E to make you love
>> someone. The gangsters hated the gays, and the gays hated the gangsters.
>> But the music was so powerful (and so new) that everyone just came
>> together...kind of like Alligators and Zebra at the last watering hole.
>> They both NEED water, and we all needed house.
>>
>> Now, with more DJ's than ever, and more parties than ever, and more of the
>> enthusiastic house heads getting older, it's harder to throw an event. but
>> the scene is not dieing.? old heads are cycling out, new heads are finding
>> their way in. but house will never die, because house IS dance music, and
>> people will always have a desire to dance.
>>
>> love & music,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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