[Dynagroove] "well worth" $20...

t.luv . indigoiris73 at hotmail.com
Thu Sep 18 14:18:36 PDT 2008


i think it would be well worth the rumored $35 though being accustomed to a
lower cover .. i might be swayed not to pay that price. the value of this
event is beyond monetary :)

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> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:30:58 -0700
> From: amyr at dynagroove.com
> To: joesuuf at gmail.com
> CC: dynagroove at dynagroove.com; solid_funk at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] "well worth" $20...
>
> Joseph Munguia et. al.,
>
> To paraphrase Scott K's previous post, an email writer's intent often is
> misinterpreted via text-only communication due to its impersonal nature.
>
> Joseph, I am surprised by the tone of your response, since my use of
> quotes around the words "well worth" in my response to your message was in
> NO WAY intended to be hostile. I honestly appreciated your response.
> Thank you so much for replying directly, and without being condescending,
> to my original question.
>
> When I asked the question, "I would love to hear from those who did go to
> the most recent SD what made it "well worth" $20," my intent was to create
> a friendly, useful (for promoters) discussion about what makes a party
> worth $20.  Having watched Cade throw Dynagrooves for almost a decade, I
> know how hard it is to get people to come to a party.  I was hoping that
> people would reply to the "well worth $20" message for the benefit of all
> the promoters who read this list.  I posted the message publicly rather
> than privately because it was directed to anyone on the list who went to
> SD, and not to any one person in particular.  I post this message publicly
> now in case I offended anyone else with that reply.
>
> To anyone who was offended by ANYTHING I have written in this thread,
> please accept my apologies.  I try to choose my words carefully on this
> list because I know how easily people get offended here, but perhaps in
> this case I did not do such a good job. Please know that I DO support
> house music and house events in LA! I DO try to create public discussion
> in an effort to make our community stronger, not to divide us.
>
> Speaking of making our community stronger, I think that many people on
> this list only know each other as a name in a "From:" box. Perhaps if we
> all knew each other a little better, we could avoid future
> misunderstandings. Notice how Scott K was not offended by my messages
> because he knows me. And he began his reply with a disclaimer about not
> intending offense.  This kind of thoughtful writing helps us all to
> communicate better. I tried (and evidently failed) to inquire avbout the
> intent of Joe Rodriguez's reply to my post (rather than to assume his
> intent) by beginning my original reply by asking him and all of you if the
> message sounded condescending.  (Several people replied to me that it did
> indeed have that tone.) I will continue to try to choose my words as
> carefully as possible in the future and again humbly apologize to Joseph
> Munguia and anyone else who was offended by my posts.
>
>
> With all of this in mind, I would LOVE to meet you ALL in person! I am
> TERRIBLE with names (I'm trying to learn 192 of them right now. Ugg!), but
> great with faces.  If you know who I am, PLEASE come say hi to me at
> Dynagroove (I'll probably be working the door at some point.) I seriously
> don't know the names of a LOT of the people whose faces I recognize, so be
> sure to tell me who the hell you are. ;)
>
> On a COMPLETELY different note, if you want to see some of the seriously
> hilarious "jackassery" in which I participated this weekend at a scooter
> rally in Tijuana and Rosarito, check out the helmeted roman candle war on
> the beach at: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2iOfp_np7_Y     TOO EFFING
> AMAZING FOR WORDS.
>
> Amy Ricketts
>
>
> > What's with the "quotes"?  You say you're a teacher so they don't just
> > magically appear, or do they?  What are you trying to convey with
> > their usage?
> >
> > I was just trying to point you in a direction...  You mentioned
> > Dynagroove and where promotions were so I pointed you to an avenue in
> > which others found out - that was all.  There are other avenues.  If I
> > would have said I heard it on a commercial would you have quoted that
> > "people" were "glued" to a TV?  I'm not "scouring" a DVR.
> >
> > I understand you were offended by Joey's initial message and while my
> > name is Joseph the similarity between those two specific messages ends
> > there.  Maybe I'm missing something or am guilty by association but I
> > don't see anything wrong with my initial reply to you.  How could it
> > have been different or more acceptable to you?
> >
> > Harvey was "well worth" the $40 to my girlfriend and I becuase we are
> > a fan of the underlying theme and style he plays.  It's something when
> > you have a DJ that can venture across a variety of spectrums while
> > consistently going back to that same disco or any base theme.  We got
> > there about 12 or so and it was packed and stayed that way through the
> > majority of the night.  Our friends were in attendance and we danced
> > the night away.  We weren't sucked into any politics, drama, or
> > cliques - we just had fun.  That's worth a variety of prices.  Is it
> > not?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/11/08, Amy Ricketts <amyr at dynagroove.com> wrote:
> >> Thanks. I am already a "friend" of harvey and paul on myspace.  But I
> >> also
> >> don't "live" on MySpace the way some people do. I check my messages and
> >> read some of my bulletins, but I am not really interested in scouring
> >> every bulletin or reading every page to find a posting.  I did know
> >> about
> >> the black cock party but was out of town that weekend.
> >>
> >> I am curious, as always, about what makes different people think a party
> >> is "well worth" $20.
> >>
> >> I would love to hear from those who did go to the most recent SD what
> >> made
> >> it "well worth" $20.  I would guess that this discussion is of interest
> >> to
> >> others on this list, particularly promoters planning future events. It
> >> might do some people good to hear what paying party-goers think makes a
> >> party worth paying for!
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Amy
> >>
> >> I'M OFF TO MEXICO ON THE BACK OF A VESPA!!  HAVE FUN IN LA THIS WEEKEND
> >> W/O ME!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>> Admission was $20 and well worth it.  There was online promotion just
> >>> not
> >>> on
> >>> this list.  Dynagroove is a great list for a variety of LA happenings
> >>> but
> >>> there are other lists, boards, etc.
> >>>
> >>> My advice Amy would be to add Harvey as a friend on MySpace -
> >>>
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=134
713919
> >>> -
> >>> that should give you an inside line.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Amy Ricketts <amyr at dynagroove.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Mr. Bickle and fellow Dynagroovers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Was anyone besides me insulted by Mr. Bickle's message?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mr. Bickle, was your message intended to be condescending, or did I
> >>>> just
> >>>> read it that way?
> >>>>
> >>>> Because PLENTY of "people" (to quote your message) have certainly NOT
> >>>> given up on "trying to convey "content" through text" via the
> >>>> internet.
> >>>> In fact, I would say most people do not consider the internet to be "a
> >>>> otherwise dithered platform" (sic).
> >>>>
> >>>> So here's an honest question for you, Mr. Bickle, since you seem to be
> >>>> inside that particular circle (and for anyone else in that circle):
> >>>>
> >>>> Are the Sarcastic parties STRICTLY promoted by word of mouth these
> >>>> days?
> >>>> (No online or print promotion?)  I ask because I never see ANYTHING
> >>>> about
> >>>> them.  Although I wouldn't have been able to go anyway, I missed the
> >>>> beach
> >>>> party bc although I was told about it in advance by someone I  see
> >>>> once
> >>>> in
> >>>> a while, I never heard anything later about the exact location. I was
> >>>> told
> >>>> after the party that the info was only disseminated via text messages.
> >>>>
> >>>> So does that mean that SD is not interested in inviting anyone who is
> >>>> not
> >>>> already a "regular"?  Because I'm sure there are plenty of people out
> >>>> there like me who don't consider themselves "cows" and don't need to
> >>>> be
> >>>> told "how to ride a bike."  We just tend to hang in different circles
> >>>> than
> >>>> the people who throw the Sarcastic parties. All we need is an address,
> >>>> and
> >>>> we can easily hang with the the "regulars." (In fact, I'd say if I try
> >>>> hard enough, I can probably dance circles around most of them without
> >>>> crashing into them, spilling their drinks, or stepping in their shoes.
> >>>> ;)
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree with Joe that "Hype is poison." But do you really consider all
> >>>> online promotion to be "hype", and therefore "poison?"
> >>>>
> >>>> Was I informed correctly that admission to the most recent SD party
> >>>> was
> >>>> $35?  Because if that is so, I am mathematically competent enough to
> >>>> realize that not too many people are needed for the people funding the
> >>>> event to break even. Perhaps this reason explains the lack of more
> >>>> promotion?
> >>>>
> >>>> Sincerely,
> >>>> Amy Ricketts
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > People gave up on trying to convey "content" through text on a
> >>>> otherwise
> >>>> > dithered platform a long time ago.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Dither is an intentionally applied form of noise, used to randomize
> >>>> > quantization error, thereby preventing large-scale patterns such as
> >>>> > contouring
> >>>> > that are more objectionable than uncorrelated noise.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > In other words... The people who know, don't care to tell the cows
> >>>> how
> >>>> to
> >>>> > ride
> >>>> > a bike. I often use to wonder why no one would mention F&F parties
> >>>> on
> >>>> here
> >>>> > even though half the people on here actually play at the event. Then
> >>>> I'll
> >>>> > read
> >>>> > a epic review of a 200 people event with music that has a range of
> >>>> about
> >>>> 3
> >>>> > bpms, 2 chords, and 1 Hi-Hat sequence.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > To some it all up... Hype is poison, and Content will always stand
> >>>> the
> >>>> > test of
> >>>> > time. So there is no reason fret my friend.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > - Joe Bickle
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am curious as to why no one ever posts the Sarcastic parties on
> >>>> this
> >>>> > list.  I go to them sometimes, and see plenty of people from this
> >>>> list
> >>>> > there.  I also speak to people later who had no idea they missed a
> >>>> > Sarcastic party.  Wasn't Paul Takahashi on this list at one time?
> >>>> (maybe
> >>>> > when it was on reelhouse.net?)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Just wondering.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Comments???
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Amy Ricketts
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