[Dynagroove] shady promoters?

[Josh Billings]

I try and stay away from the "Business" Side of things because i really 
do just enjoy doing the party (focus), however for a lot of promoters 
and DJs it is a business and a living for them.

Some things i CAN understand are when you are in demand as a DJ / 
Producer you need to charge X amount of dollars to make sure your time 
spent away from your studio / family / home is worth your while. Also 
most artists will not play within the same area within a month or so to 
make sure they don't saturate their name in said market. These artists 
need to get paid what they agreed to and as a promoter you can decide 
next time weather or not you can offer the same fee, more, less or even 
have them back at the event, BUT they need to get paid what you agreed 
to for that gig.

As far as promoters needing to make money on an event, there are 2 ways 
to look at it. A lot of people spend a LOT Of time working on putting 
together a top notch show making the day of the event sometimes a 24 
hour day of work + all the work leading up to the event. It would only 
be fair that they get something for their time especially if they do a 
good job with what they do and you want more of it.

As party goers we should really feel great about paying the cover 
charge. It supports the promoter as in HOPEFULLY allows him to first 
break even and second maybe make a little bit of money. It also supports 
that DJ in allowing him / her to command a higher fee or at the minimum 
a repeat performance at the promoter's next event.

Anyways about the whole situation, if the artists and staff didn't get 
paid in full then that would be by my definition, shady. Weather or not 
a promoter loses or makes money on the event is completely on their 
shoulders unless something like a percentage is agreed to with the 
artists ahead of time.

P.S. I know some may think that the public discussion of this wouldn't 
be very P.C., but I for one appreciate it. Situations that just get 
swept under the rug are no good for anybody and knowing people aren't 
afraid to speaker up will help keep people honest. It also gives you 
opinions and information helping to make future decisions on weather or 
not to work with somebody in the future.

-Josh Billings

AIM / iChat - Hosj321



Aaron wrote:
> It sort of sucks that parties are business.  I think if you're going 
> into it with hopes or need to make money, you're doing it for the 
> wrong reasons.  That's a little naive I know but I think money is a 
> big reason partiers talent and promoters all get jaded and parties 
> flop or just aren't fun.
>
> Love,
>
> _A
>
> On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:51 PM, "lucas dodson" <lucas at distantbeat.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Have you talked to them recently Brett?
>>
>> I am pretty sure he paid everyone involved with this event.
>>
>> If he didn't have the money right of way,
>> no biggie as long as they get it right?
>>
>> Who didn't he pay in his production?
>>
>> I think I know everyone involved.
>>
>> Well anyway I am not gonna make a big deal about someone elses party.
>>
>> I don't take investors I throw away my own money.
>>
>> Whose money did you lose on your last party?
>>
>> Good luck on your next event.
>>
>> Lucas
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com
>> [mailto:dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com] On Behalf Of Brett Ballou
>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:35 PM
>> To: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
>> Subject: [Dynagroove] shady promoters/lucas?
>>
>> Lucas- So Mike voss is not shady huh?
>>
>> He did not pay Greenskeeprers in Full- FACT!
>>
>> He did not pay his production people in full- FACT!
>>
>> He did not pay one cent to his investor- who he bullshitted into 
>> giving him
>> money- FACT!
>>
>> Sound was Crap! FACT!
>>
>> So, if that is what you call a stand up promoter and good guy. Then I 
>> must
>> be crazy!
>>
>> And if he screws one of my friends for money, I'll make it anybody's
>> business I like.
>>
>> He is the reason investor's get jaded, and customers get sick of 
>> going out.
>>
>> But, maybe you like all that type of stuff at your parties?
>>
>> B
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