In a message dated 5/11/00 7:32:03 PM Central Daylight Time, jburdoo@ksu.edu writes: << ou know, those weighted balls with plastic "feathers" attached. They're used for badminton. I don't think you should compare Minton to Rufferto, though; it's an insult to Rufferto, who is (when you think about it) smarter than his master. Groo, now, I can imagine eating a shuttlecock. Jennifer >> Gotcha sitruc