[Groop]CD Clubs

Thu, 04 Jan 2001 17:58:32

Or if your really cheap just use napster and make your own CD's


>From: "Sudilovsky, Ariel" <ASudilov@Calfee.com>
>To: "'Groop@groo.com'" <Groop@groo.com>
>Subject: RE: [Groop]CD Clubs
>Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:53:49 -0500
>
>You identified true problems with the service.  While shipping is normally
>around $2.60 (in the US), they offer a "discount" when more than one cd is
>shipped at a time.  The problem is they will often intentionally break up
>their shipments to avoid their "generous" discount.  They have also been
>known to play games with sales tax.  As far as what they do with royalties,
>I believe they pay them, but at a greatly discounted rate.  This is because
>they license the cds they will sell, and produce them themselves.  I don't
>know if they do so with less quality than the original versions, but I have
>never been able to get any used cd store to accept BMG copies for trade or
>cash.  If you are careful with this service you can end up saving some
>money, but nowhere near as much as their offer implies.
>
>Later,
>A
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sean McCoy [mailto:woodchuck777@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:23 PM
>To: groop@groo.com
>Subject: Re: [Groop]CD Clubs
>
>
>HI All,
>First off, WOO~HOO post 01 of 2001
>
>I joinded the BMG thing and got the 12 cd's for the price of one. The only
>problem is you have to pay shipping and handling for each cd. So you are
>really paying $4-$5 for every cd. And then once a month they mail me a cd
>(the cd of the month) and you either have to pay for it (plus shipping and
>haddling) or send it back to them. SO if you are as unorginaized as I am 
>you
>
>end up misplasing the cd and then having them send you bills for it. Also
>part of the contract is that after you get your 12 cd's you have to buy 1 
>at
>
>normal price within the next year. well that aint to bad, but the cd at
>normal price are around $14-$17 + shipping and haddling. So you are getting
>screwed on that deal there. Also I found it hard to pick 12 cd's out of
>thier selection that I really wanted. But it really hasnt been to bad of an
>ordeal and I never really felt ripped off. But I have heard that the cd 
>that
>
>are sold through these clubs are considered promotional and the artist 
>doest
>
>get any royalties for thier sales. I dont know if this is true or not, but
>being an x-musician. I think it totaly stinks if it is true. But enough of
>my rambling!
>
>MORE GROO!!!
>
>Sean
>
>P.S. I, who never posts, have more posts than Gary! MWAHAHA!!!
>
>
> >From: "D. Bron" <DBron@flashmail.com>
> >To: Groop@groo.com
> >Subject: [Groop]CD Clubs
> >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:18:30 -0500
> >
> >Azamin:
> >
> >The link you supplied doesn't work (it was posted from a form - it's not 
>a
> >static website), but as you say, these services have been around in the 
>US
> >for a while, so I can tell you what I know about them:
> >
> >They're notorious for being scams.  In essence they are CD clubs, which
> >means they charge your credit card every month whether you select new CDs
> >or not.  This is legal because the club's sign-up contract (which you 
>agree
>
> >to when you get those first 12 CDs) specifically states that they are
> >*opt-out*, which means you have to send in a form in order to cancel your
> >membership (which they process slowly, so they can charge you for another
> >month's CDs).  Usually these clubs have very enticing enrollment packages
> >(like your 12 CDs for the price of 1*) in order to get you to sign-up
> >without reading the small print.  However, the next month and every
> >subsequent month) is full price, which you've already agreed to pay for.
> >This whole thing is very similar to the earlier book-club scams which I 
>was
>
> >suckered by once.
> >
> >Now, I don't know if the specific company you chose is legitimate or not,
> >but I wouldn't count on it.  Read ALL the small print before you buy.
> >
> >-TGD
> >
> >* Here in America we have even BETTER deals - 12 CDs for 1¢.  So if the
> >offer's legit you're getting ripped-off ;)
> >
> >Since in any endeavor the greatest likelihood is failure, it follows that
> >if you set out to fail you will invariably succeed.
> >
> >
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