[Groop]Thought for the Day

[Ruben A]

I usually don't like to carry on an off-topic e-mail in public, but I 
have to agree with Azamin.  I don't think that any battles that have 
been fought on 'religious' grounds were truly in the name of religion. 
 I'm no history buff, but I would bet that the majority of so-called 
religious battles also had other powerful motivators at stake: wealth, 
land, power, etc.  If someone can provide a contrary example, I would be 
interested to hear about it.  

The religious angle is just a way for the powerful benefactors (the 
politicians) to control those who are most hurt by war (the people).

In this particular case, Bin Laden has been trying to assert that this 
is a battle of Muslims against America.  This is a load of carp <sic>, 
because there are plenty of muslims who reside in places other than 
Afganastan .  

And that's enough of that,
Ruben.

How about that Groo!

\"Azamin \\\"Cantona\\\" Zainol Abidin\" wrote:

>
>Gary Grossmann wrote:
>
>>I was talking about the culture (subculture?) of religious fundamentalists
>>who think one path to heaven is to kill yourself while killing other people
>>whose only "crime" is to be part of a culture you despise and believe to be
>>evil.  Please note that in an earlier message I also said that the wackos
>>who committed the atrocities are as representative of the billion plus
>>followers of Islam as the members of the Arian Nation are representative of
>>most white American males.
>>
>
>Btw... suicide is considered as haram (forbidden) in Islam and those who commit
>it will never be in heaven.  And according to the news, some those hijackers
>drink  alchohol (beer) which is very much unislamic.  I think it's  political
>belief than cultural/ religious issue...
>
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