[Groop]Syndication
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MisterElie@aol.com
Wed, 3 Apr 2002 23:38:54 EST
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That's a shame. I was really hoping there'd be a DVD collection sometime in
the near future (the episodes I have were SAVAGELY edited down to 30 minutes
and I'm positive we're missing a lot in these).
Oh well, that's the politics of show business. Being in the professional
music end of it myself, I understand. It doesn't discourage me from
dreaming, though.......
*sigh*
Elie
In a message dated 4/3/2002 11:46:49 AM Central Standard Time,
mail@evanier.com writes:
> Subj:Re: [Groop]Syndication
> Date:4/3/2002 11:46:49 AM Central Standard Time
> From:<A HREF="mailto:mail@evanier.com">mail@evanier.com</A>
> To:<A HREF="mailto:groop@groo.com">groop@groo.com</A>
> Sent from the Internet
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>
>
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 07:16:41 -0800, "Gary Grossmann"
> <grossfam@olywa.net> wrote:
>
> >Why do they do that? Why not all 121?
>
> ME: This is kinda complicated but basically...
>
> When we first offered GARFIELD & FRIENDS for syndication, the show was
> still on CBS on Saturday mornings. CBS had "control" of a certain
> number of episodes for their use. There were 73 episodes that they no
> longer controlled so we offered the 73 for syndication.
>
> A company called Program Exchange bought the rights to syndicate the
> 73 episodes. The idea was that, at some point down the line, they'd
> also buy the others. For a start though, they just bought the 73 that
> were available.
>
> The company that produced the show (Lee Mendelson Productions) then
> paid the actors, music folks and me our residuals on those 73. The
> way residuals work, the amounts go down. That is, the first
> off-network reruns are paid at a high rate and then, as the shows are
> run over and over, it drops to a lower rate. Once the shows hit their
> 10th run (I think it is) the residual is as low as it will ever get.
>
> So Program Exchange markets the 73 and they do very well...so well,
> that Program Exchange says, "You know, we don't need to spend the
> money yet to acquire the other 49. We'll take in just as much money
> running the 73 over and over again, so it'll be more profitable for us
> not to buy the rest...for now."
>
> In the meantime, Lee Mendelson Productions says, "You know, if they
> keep running the 73, we only have to pay residuals at the lowest rate.
> Whenever the additional 49 go into syndication, we're going to have to
> pay another huge sum to the actors, musicians and Evanier. So we'll
> put that off for a while."
>
> Ergo, the two entities who control the syndication of the shows have a
> financial disincentive to market the remaining episodes until such
> time as the first 73 stop delivering.
>
> Every time I run into one of the actors, he says to me, "How's the
> show doing in syndication?" and I say, "Great," and he says, "Too
> bad."
>
> But, one of these days...
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>That's a shame. I was really hoping there'd be a DVD collection sometime in the near future (the episodes I have were SAVAGELY edited down to 30 minutes and I'm positive we're missing a lot in these).<BR>
<BR>
Oh well, that's the politics of show business. Being in the professional music end of it myself, I understand. It doesn't discourage me from dreaming, though.......<BR>
<BR>
*sigh*<BR>
Elie<BR>
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In a message dated 4/3/2002 11:46:49 AM Central Standard Time, mail@evanier.com writes:<BR>
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Date:4/3/2002 11:46:49 AM Central Standard Time<BR>
From:<A HREF="mailto:mail@evanier.com">mail@evanier.com</A><BR>
To:<A HREF="mailto:groop@groo.com">groop@groo.com</A><BR>
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 07:16:41 -0800, "Gary Grossmann"<BR>
<grossfam@olywa.net> wrote:<BR>
<BR>
>Why do they do that? Why not all 121? <BR>
<BR>
ME: This is kinda complicated but basically...<BR>
<BR>
When we first offered GARFIELD & FRIENDS for syndication, the show was<BR>
still on CBS on Saturday mornings. CBS had "control" of a certain<BR>
number of episodes for their use. There were 73 episodes that they no<BR>
longer controlled so we offered the 73 for syndication.<BR>
<BR>
A company called Program Exchange bought the rights to syndicate the<BR>
73 episodes. The idea was that, at some point down the line, they'd<BR>
also buy the others. For a start though, they just bought the 73 that<BR>
were available.<BR>
<BR>
The company that produced the show (Lee Mendelson Productions) then<BR>
paid the actors, music folks and me our residuals on those 73. The<BR>
way residuals work, the amounts go down. That is, the first<BR>
off-network reruns are paid at a high rate and then, as the shows are<BR>
run over and over, it drops to a lower rate. Once the shows hit their<BR>
10th run (I think it is) the residual is as low as it will ever get.<BR>
<BR>
So Program Exchange markets the 73 and they do very well...so well,<BR>
that Program Exchange says, "You know, we don't need to spend the<BR>
money yet to acquire the other 49. We'll take in just as much money<BR>
running the 73 over and over again, so it'll be more profitable for us<BR>
not to buy the rest...for now."<BR>
<BR>
In the meantime, Lee Mendelson Productions says, "You know, if they<BR>
keep running the 73, we only have to pay residuals at the lowest rate.<BR>
Whenever the additional 49 go into syndication, we're going to have to<BR>
pay another huge sum to the actors, musicians and Evanier. So we'll<BR>
put that off for a while."<BR>
<BR>
Ergo, the two entities who control the syndication of the shows have a<BR>
financial disincentive to market the remaining episodes until such<BR>
time as the first 73 stop delivering.<BR>
<BR>
Every time I run into one of the actors, he says to me, "How's the<BR>
show doing in syndication?" and I say, "Great," and he says, "Too<BR>
bad."<BR>
<BR>
But, one of these days...<BR>
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www.POVonline.com - a website about comic books, cartoons, TV,<BR>
movies, Groo the Wanderer, Broadway, Las Vegas, Hollywood,<BR>
Stan Freberg, Laurel & Hardy, Jack Kirby and possums in my backyard.<BR>
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