[Groop]OT-Very very OT.

Gary Grossmann grossfam@olywa.net
Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:35:42 -0800


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2A14C.7E015C40
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am not an isolationist.  It's impossible for a country as economically =
powerful as we are to be isolationist.  It's also a bad idea under any =
circumstances.  And I did not say, nor mean to imply, that we should =
close our eyes to the rest of the world. =20

(It seems to me we spearheaded the halt of "ethic cleansing" (i.e. =
killing Muslims) in the Balkins, and the primary instigator of the =
killings is in prison awaiting trial for war crimes, but nobody wants to =
remember that because: 1) No oil is involved, 2) it doesn't serve =
anyone's current agenda, and 3) Clinton did it and it worked.) But I =
digress. =20

The point I tried to make is that we are never as far away from the kind =
of barbarism that took place in Nigeria as we like to think we are.   =
And it is more important for us to be on guard about what goes on within =
our own borders than to point fingers at what goes on within others.  =
The latter may be important in many, many circumstances, it's just that =
the former is MORE important.   Especially in these days where the =
ignorant are always looking for an excuse to hate someone and the =
powerful are always looking for a way to exploit the ignorant to achieve =
their ends.  -Gary G.=20
  Garry concludes:=20

  So while the combination of stupidity and intolerance that lead to 200 =

  deaths in Nigeria was horrible and should be condemned, Americans need =
to=20
  spend more energy doing everything they can to keep their own house in =
order=20
  and not let our own intolerance, misunderstanding, and fear lead us to =
doing=20
  things as a nation that our children and grand children will be =
ashamed of.=20

  -------------->Isolationism?  I agree we have a lot of work to do in =
our own country, but I disagree that means we should close our eyes to =
the rest of the world.  We have a lot of bad going on in our country, no =
doubt, but we ain't got nothing like this.  =20


------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2A14C.7E015C40
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am not an isolationist.&nbsp; It's impossible for =
a country=20
as economically powerful as we are to be isolationist.&nbsp; It's also a =
bad=20
idea under any circumstances.&nbsp; And I did not say, nor mean to =
imply, that=20
we should close our eyes to the rest of the world.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(It seems to me we spearheaded the halt of "ethic =
cleansing"=20
(i.e. killing Muslims) in the Balkins, and the primary instigator of the =

killings is in prison awaiting trial for war crimes, but nobody wants to =

remember that because: 1) No oil is involved, 2) it doesn't serve =
anyone's=20
current agenda, and 3) Clinton did it and&nbsp;it worked.) But I =
digress.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The point I tried to make is that we are never as =
far away=20
from the kind of barbarism that took place in Nigeria as we like to =
think we=20
are.&nbsp;&nbsp; And it is more important for us to be on guard about =
what goes=20
on within our own borders than to point fingers at what goes on within=20
others.&nbsp;&nbsp;The latter may&nbsp;be important in many, many =
circumstances,=20
it's just that&nbsp;the former is MORE important.&nbsp;&nbsp; Especially =
in=20
these days where the ignorant are always looking for an excuse to hate =
someone=20
and the powerful are always looking for a way to exploit the ignorant to =
achieve=20
their ends.&nbsp; -Gary G. </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>Garry concludes: =
<BR><BR>So while=20
  the combination of stupidity and intolerance that lead to 200 =
<BR>deaths in=20
  Nigeria was horrible and should be condemned, Americans need to =
<BR>spend more=20
  energy doing everything they can to keep their own house in order =
<BR>and not=20
  let our own intolerance, misunderstanding, and fear lead us to doing=20
  <BR>things as a nation that our children and grand children will be =
ashamed=20
  of. <BR><BR>--------------&gt;Isolationism? &nbsp;I agree we have a =
lot of=20
  work to do in our own country, but I disagree that means we should =
close our=20
  eyes to the rest of the world. &nbsp;We have a lot of bad going on in =
our=20
  country, no doubt, but we ain't got nothing like this.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  <BR></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT=20
size=3D2></DIV></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2A14C.7E015C40--