[Groop]Re: Groop digest, Vol 1 #569 - 4 msgs

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Sat, 25 May 2002 22:48:55 -0700


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>Subject: Groop digest, Vol 1 #569 - 4 msgs
>Date: Sat, May 25, 2002, 12:00 PM
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>   1. OT Question for Mark (Gary Grossmann)
>   2. Re: OT Question for Mark (Mark Evanier)
>   3. Re: OT Question for Mark (Gary Grossmann)
>   4. Re: OT Question for Mark (Mark Evanier)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Gary Grossmann" <grossfam@olywa.net>
> To: <groop@groo.com>
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 23:38:20 -0700
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> Subject: [Groop]OT Question for Mark
>
> Hi Folks!
>
> OK, it looks like Spiderman is going to gross at least 500 million.  Let's
> just say for simplicity sake that the whole budget for making the movie and
> promotion and everything is $200 million.  Mark, do you have any idea or at
> least an educated guess on what percentage of the $300 million in profit the
> studio will probably get and how much Marvel will probably get?   And does
> the studio get any part of the merchandise profits?  And do Mr. Lee & Mr.
> Ditko get anything besides a pat on the back?
>
> btw, I understand your frustration that the passing of someone like Dave
> Berg, who made literally millions of people laugh for decades, barely makes
> a ripple in the press.  But when you say that it "shouldn't be left to the
> likes of" you to bring his passing and the magnitude of his work to the
> world's attention, I think you underestimate your position as one of the
> comic art world's primary keepers of the flame.
>
> Take care all -Gary G.
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> Message: 2
> From: Mark Evanier <mail@evanier.com>
> To: groop@groo.com
> Subject: Re: [Groop]OT Question for Mark
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 23:49:03 -0700
> Reply-To: mail@evanier.com
>
> On Fri, 24 May 2002 23:38:20 -0700, "Gary Grossmann"
> <grossfam@olywa.net> wrote:
>
>>OK, it looks like Spiderman is going to gross at least 500 million.  Let's
>>just say for simplicity sake that the whole budget for making the movie and
>>promotion and everything is $200 million.  Mark, do you have any idea or at
>>least an educated guess on what percentage of the $300 million in profit the
>>studio will probably get and how much Marvel will probably get?
>
> ME: Surprisingly little, I'm told.  Something like 5%.
>
>>And does the studio get any part of the merchandise profits?
>
> ME: Yes.  And if the merchandise is based on the movie imagery -- say,
> a photo from the movie is involved -- they get most of it.
>
>>And do Mr. Lee & Mr.
>>Ditko get anything besides a pat on the back?
>
> ME: Stan gets some sort of bonus and a lot of publicity to help his
> other enterprises.  Ditko gets nothing, as far as I know.
>
>>btw, I understand your frustration that the passing of someone like Dave
>>Berg, who made literally millions of people laugh for decades, barely makes
>>a ripple in the press.  But when you say that it "shouldn't be left to the
>>likes of" you to bring his passing and the magnitude of his work to the
>>world's attention, I think you underestimate your position as one of the
>>comic art world's primary keepers of the flame.
>
> ME: Yes, but I'm sick of people saying, "We don't have to do it
> because Evanier will."  It's not a one person job and what if I'm
> busy?  Or sick?  Or just get sick of doing it?
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> Message: 3
> From: "Gary Grossmann" <grossfam@olywa.net>
> To: <groop@groo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Groop]OT Question for Mark
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 00:20:58 -0700
> charset="iso-8859-1"
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>> ME: Yes, but I'm sick of people saying, "We don't have to do it
>> because Evanier will."  It's not a one person job and what if I'm
>> busy?  Or sick?  Or just get sick of doing it?
>
> Point well taken.
>
>>
>> ME: Stan gets some sort of bonus and a lot of publicity to help his
>> other enterprises.  Ditko gets nothing, as far as I know.
>>
>
> Eek!  Does that mean the Kirby estate will get nothing from the upcoming
> Hulk & Fantastic Four movies?  (btw, my son just told me Stan Lee was listed
> as executive producer of Spiderman.  But my understanding is that that title
> can mean a wide range of things in terms of power & input. Something along
> the lines of it means whatever the studio ultimately lets it mean since they
> are footing the bill.)  -Gary G.
>
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> Message: 4
> From: Mark Evanier <mail@evanier.com>
> To: groop@groo.com
> Subject: Re: [Groop]OT Question for Mark
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 02:03:04 -0700
> Reply-To: mail@evanier.com
>
> On Sat, 25 May 2002 00:20:58 -0700, "Gary Grossmann"
> <grossfam@olywa.net> wrote:
>
>>Eek!  Does that mean the Kirby estate will get nothing from the upcoming
>>Hulk & Fantastic Four movies?
>
> ME: Probably.  They've never gotten a cent on all the past TV shows
> and movies.
>
>>(btw, my son just told me Stan Lee was listed
>>as executive producer of Spiderman.  But my understanding is that that title
>>can mean a wide range of things in terms of power & input. Something along
>>the lines of it means whatever the studio ultimately lets it mean since they
>>are footing the bill.)
>
> ME: "Executive Producer," in a case like this, is a contractually
> mandated credit.  I believe Stan's contract with Marvel says he must
> receive it on any Marvel-based movie.
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