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Hi guys/grrls!

Larry wrote:
>"How I Deliver Discourse Evokes No Mere Evil,
>So Said A Great Emperor." -R.J. Rellets

I must be dyslexic 'cause it looks like the
quote is from "Steller, Jr."

See you.

Eric

----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Steller <mrgrooism@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:39:10 -0800 (PST)
To: Groop <groop@groo.com>
Subject: [Groop]The Groo List


> Ramble on, Larry...
> 
> In the close to 5 years that I have been a member of
> this list, there has been VERY little HEATED debate of
> the type that gets someone angry. We generally manage
> to keep disagreements both civil and shortlived, which
> is a good thing. I'm very proud of our little forum,
> and remain so despite occasional bumps.
> 
> The few times things have heated up have almost always
> been centered around OFF TOPIC POSTS. It was mutually
> agreed upon a long time ago that we would try to
> preface these posts with the legend "OT" to mean OFF
> TOPIC, so that those who ONLY want to hear about Groo
> stuff would ONLY hear about Groo stuff. In one of my
> favorite exchanges to date, this was followed by the
> brilliantly Grooish notion that in order to be EXTRA
> clear, we should also label the posts that are ON
> TOPIC. Of course, ON TOPIC posts would be labeled
> "OT".
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> I love this Groop! 
> 
> Anyway, I think anyone who gets upset about the
> current OFF TOPIC postings and the heat being
> generated, should remember that the subject lines are
> almost always labeled OT (for Off Topic, snicker,
> snicker, not On Topic), or else the subject line has
> made it clear that we are discussing NON-GROO matters.
> It's therefore very easy to stick to Groo Relted Posts
> only if you kep this in mind (although this sadly
> doesn't help the Groopies who get this list digest
> style. Oops, sorry). 
> 
> I don't believe there should be any taboos in our
> discussions, that we should censor the content, or
> that we should PREVENT anyone from discussing whatever
> they want to discuss. I'm much more in favor of
> self-policing, responsible behavior, such as is almost
> always already exhibited. We try to keep the language
> PG out of respect to Groop members who read this with
> young kids at the knee, but we don't FORCE compliance
> (we just pleasantly urge it).
> 
> Members of this list have developed such a strong
> affinity for each other, the Groop feels much like
> family to me (and to many others), and we're ever
> eager to extend that familial atmosphere to anyone who
> pops in and says howdy. This has caused a definite
> evolution of this list, and we stray ever more off
> topic because WE ARE AMONGST FRIENDS. 
> 
> I think this is a good thing, especially since anyone
> who doesn't want to read about OT posts can always
> exercise that right little finger and reach up for the
> DELETE key. Nobody likes having their mailbox junked
> up with unwanted posts, but I think this is a small
> price to pay, because the ON TOPIC stuff is often
> brilliant and vastly helpful (especially for those of
> you who have received something in the mail from Our
> Mr. Grossmann or participated in M.E.'s Groo Card
> Exchange).  
> 
> One of AZAMIN'S main points in discussing the way
> Islam interacts with the rest of the world, is that he
> just wants people to be sensitive to how they
> criticize, and both understand and care about how that
> criticism is received. You know what? That is VERY
> much ON TOPIC, if you consider the nature of many of
> GROO'S morals/messages. 
> 
> I laughed like HELL at Andrew Iyer's forwarded post
> about religious laws, but also understand it is VERY
> likely to insult some members of the Groop, such as
> Roland. I beg Roland's tolerance, actually I beg
> EVERYONE EVERYWHERE'S tolerance of each other's
> feelings, beliefs and opinions, but the fact is it is
> impossible to comment on any religion anywhere without
> risking censure, and trebly impossible to poke fun at
> someone's beliefs without offending. Hey, this IS a
> comedo-centric Groop, after all.
> 
> Again, I admit I laughed, and did so sadly realizing
> people were going to be offended by the biblical
> quotes and the context; once again, sorry about that.
> I don't usually discuss such things, but my personal
> complex belief system is, frankly, often in flux; I
> was raised Catholic, but became disillusioned by The
> Church, as well as by the actions of some individuals
> who were dear to me whom I saw as Moralistic and Pious
> on the one hand and aggressively Racist and Intolerant
> on the other. Because of that, I put more credence in
> the spirit of the message, rather than the literal
> context.
> 
> My most firmly held belief is that, whatever the true
> nature of God, it is far beyond mortal comprehension;
> thus any belief system can be seen as "TRUE" to our
> limited mortal comprehension, and any human
> observation/interpretation HAS TO miss in the details.
> It is up to each one of us to take what we learn about
> peace, love, compassion and tolerance TO HEART and
> live by example, whether we have learned this through
> an organized religion or through common decency. 
> 
> "How I Deliver Discourse Evokes No Mere Evil, So Said
> A Great Emperor." -R.J. Rellets
> 
> (If anyone understands this quote, please let us
> know...)
> 
> 
> =====
> -------------------------------
> -Larry "Mr. Grooism" Steller
> 
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