[Groop]Statur Numbering

Grossmann, Gary GaryG@DOR.WA.GOV
Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:38:00 -0800


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I think that one of the reasons you have a low number, apparently THE low
number, is because you ordered it directly from Graphitti Designs.  I think
I noticed that some of the others with low numbers also ordered direct.  So
maybe the first couple cases were set aside or something like that. 
 
But it really doesn't matter.  However you got it, you got it.  I don't
think it makes it any more valuable, but it's just cool!  And it's kind of a
mystery.  It's interesting that it has a white hand painted Roman numeral
when the others (that I know of) are painted in black to match the printing.
That's why I wanted to know what the certificate of authenticity says. The
certificates themselves are silly, as Mark has pointed out, but if it also
says 1 of 750 it would be kind of neat.  And if it doesn't (what else would
it say?) or if you don't have one, than what is your statue's story?  Was it
a prototype or something that inadvertently made it's way into inventory?
Since it all took place in China there is probably no way to know, but it's
fun to speculate.  
 
My Cartoonist's Constitution lithograph is the genuine article.  All the
signatures are real pen and pencil.  But it has no number.  They are
supposed to say xxx/195 and when I asked Bud Plant, who I purchased it from,
about that he said that it must have been an extra one sent around to be
signed with all the others in case one of the numbered ones was damaged.
That sounded like a good explanation to me.  Nothing else made sense.  
 
So sometimes these little quirky things happen and they are fun!  Let us
know if you find anything else.  -Gary G.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  

-----Original Message-----
From: Groosagi16@cs.com [mailto:Groosagi16@cs.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:07 AM
To: Groop@groo.com
Subject: Re: [Groop]Statur Numbering


In a message dated 2/10/2003 10:09:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
grossfam@olywa.net writes: 




I finally remembered to check my statue.  It has the Groo logo and it says
#109 of 750, with the 109 obviously handpainted and the 750 printed.
Underneath that it says "That's all there is, 'cause there ain't no more."
And underneath that is all the copy right info.   

Sooooo, Groosagi, yours has a Roman numeral 1 of 750?   Cool!!  Are there
any other diferences and what does the "Certificate of Authenticity" say?
Enquiring Groo maniacs want to know.  -Gary G.   





--------------->Gary, thanks for responding with the info.  It was both
helpful and humbling.  Helpful in that I think I am closer to unraveling the
mystery than before, and humbling in that I am an idiot. 

      I also rechecked my statute (oops, I mean statue.  Darn (k, e c?)
lawyers)and stuff.  The numeral is definitely a roman 1.  It is hand painted
in white.  Everything else was printed.  I didn't check it out close enough
to see if that was all there was cuz there wasn't anymore.  I assume it was
there.  So on its face it appears that I was rewarded for my groodication
(staunch since pacific).  Cool!  Cool!  Kull! 

      I have a fair number of statues.  I believe I have been collecting
them for about 6 years now.  Over those years various things have happened
to the certificates of authenticity.  I believe at first, that I stored them
in the original box.  However, I also know that there was a time when I
filed the certificates in a folder.  Also there are various statues where
that certificate lay underneath the displayed item.  At this point I have
determined that the Grooo statue certificate is neither the first nor the
last of these options.  Based on the time frame involved, if filed the
certificate must be in a bin currently obstructed by ~ 10 minutes of moving
and replacing other bins.  That, and the ease with which I shall be
sidetracked should I open that bin have prevented me from searching out the
certificate over the weekend.  Now, I have no specific recollection of ever
seeing the particular certificate, but then again I read Groo.  Could it be
that I have some kinda knockoff or have I simply unmembered the certificate?
I hope the latter.  In bolstering of that hope I did buy the statue direct
from Graphitti Design. 

      Which brings me to wonder how could I possibly have gotten the first
statue.  I had asked my cb dealer to get me one, but as that was one the
first times I asked him to get one he must have doubted my commitment, as it
never came in.  Eventually, in whatever degree eventually presents in one
slow of mind, I said aww to spell with 'em, and ordered direct from GD.
That baby (the statue) must have been on the market for at least 2 months,
and more likely more, before I got it.  It confuses me.  How could I get the
first one.  Any ideas? 

Thanks, 
Ari 



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think that one of the reasons you have a low number, apparently THE low number, 
is because you ordered it directly from Graphitti Designs.&nbsp; I think I 
noticed that some of the others with low numbers also ordered direct.&nbsp; So 
maybe the first couple cases were set aside or something like 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=349025919-11022003>But it 
really doesn't matter.&nbsp; However you got it, you got it.&nbsp; I don't think 
it makes it any more valuable, but it's just cool!&nbsp; And it's kind of a 
mystery.&nbsp; It's&nbsp;interesting that it has a white hand painted Roman 
numeral when the others (that I know of) are painted in black to match the 
printing. That's why&nbsp;I wanted to know what the certificate of authenticity 
says.&nbsp;The certificates themselves are silly, as Mark has pointed out, but 
if it also says 1 of 750 it would be kind of neat.&nbsp; And if it doesn't (what 
else would it say?) or if you don't have one, than what is your statue's 
story?&nbsp; Was it a&nbsp;prototype or&nbsp;something that inadvertently made 
it's way into inventory?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Since it all took place in China there 
is probably no way to know, but it's fun to 
speculate.&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=349025919-11022003>My 
Cartoonist's Constitution lithograph is the genuine article.&nbsp; All the 
signatures are real pen and pencil.&nbsp; But it has no number.&nbsp; They are 
supposed to say xxx/195 and when I asked Bud Plant, who&nbsp;I&nbsp;purchased it 
from,&nbsp;about that he said that it must have been an extra one sent around to 
be signed with all the others in case one of the numbered ones was 
damaged.&nbsp; That sounded like a good explanation to me.&nbsp; Nothing else 
made sense.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=349025919-11022003>So 
sometimes these little quirky things happen and they are fun!&nbsp; Let us know 
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Groosagi16@cs.com 
  [mailto:Groosagi16@cs.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:07 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> Groop@groo.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Groop]Statur 
  Numbering<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>In a 
  message dated 2/10/2003 10:09:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, grossfam@olywa.net 
  writes: <BR><BR><BR>
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  style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" 
  TYPE="CITE">I finally remembered to check my statue. &nbsp;It has the Groo 
    logo and it says #109 of 750, with the 109 obviously handpainted and the 750 
    printed. &nbsp;Underneath that it says "That's all there is, 'cause there 
    ain't no more." &nbsp;And underneath that is all the copy right info. &nbsp; 
    <BR><BR>Sooooo, Groosagi, yours has a Roman numeral 1 of 750? 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;Cool!! &nbsp;Are there any other diferences and what does the 
    "Certificate of Authenticity" say? &nbsp;Enquiring Groo maniacs want to 
    know. &nbsp;-Gary G. &nbsp; 
  <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>---------------&gt;Gary, thanks for responding 
  with the info. &nbsp;It was both helpful and humbling. &nbsp;Helpful in that I 
  think I am closer to unraveling the mystery than before, and humbling in that 
  I am an idiot. <BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I also rechecked my 
  statute (oops, I mean statue. &nbsp;Darn (k, e c?) lawyers)and stuff. 
  &nbsp;The numeral is definitely a roman 1. &nbsp;It is hand painted in white. 
  &nbsp;Everything else was printed. &nbsp;I didn't check it out close enough to 
  see if that was all there was cuz there wasn't anymore. &nbsp;I assume it was 
  there. &nbsp;So on its face it appears that I was rewarded for my groodication 
  (staunch since pacific). &nbsp;Cool! &nbsp;Cool! &nbsp;Kull! 
  <BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have a fair number of statues. 
  &nbsp;I believe I have been collecting them for about 6 years now. &nbsp;Over 
  those years various things have happened to the certificates of authenticity. 
  &nbsp;I believe at first, that I stored them in the original box. 
  &nbsp;However, I also know that there was a time when I filed the certificates 
  in a folder. &nbsp;Also there are various statues where that certificate lay 
  underneath the displayed item. &nbsp;At this point I have determined that the 
  Grooo statue certificate is neither the first nor the last of these options. 
  &nbsp;Based on the time frame involved, if filed the certificate must be in a 
  bin currently obstructed by ~ 10 minutes of moving and replacing other bins. 
  &nbsp;That, and the ease with which I shall be sidetracked should I open that 
  bin have prevented me from searching out the certificate over the weekend. 
  &nbsp;Now, I have no specific recollection of ever seeing the particular 
  certificate, but then again I read Groo. &nbsp;Could it be that I have some 
  kinda knockoff or have I simply unmembered the certificate? &nbsp;I hope the 
  latter. &nbsp;In bolstering of that hope I did buy the statue direct from 
  Graphitti Design. <BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Which brings me 
  to wonder how could I possibly have gotten the first statue. &nbsp;I had asked 
  my cb dealer to get me one, but as that was one the first times I asked him to 
  get one he must have doubted my commitment, as it never came in. 
  &nbsp;Eventually, in whatever degree eventually presents in one slow of mind, 
  I said aww to spell with 'em, and ordered direct from GD. &nbsp;That baby (the 
  statue) must have been on the market for at least 2 months, and more likely 
  more, before I got it. &nbsp;It confuses me. &nbsp;How could I get the first 
  one. &nbsp;Any ideas? <BR><BR>Thanks, <BR>Ari 
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