[Groop] Question re: Marvel #87

[Vaughn (Home)]

You do err, sort of...

Traditional Japanese haiku does indeed require the 5-7-5 syllable 
structure. But there is much more to haiku than the 5-7-5 syllable 
count. For example, traditional Japanese haiku include a "season word," 
and they try to convey a connection between Nature and human nature. 
They are often divided into 2 asymmetrical parts that do not make a 
complete sentence. They typically use simple language and present images 
with little or no commentary.

When poets started writing English haiku in the 1950's, they adopted 
this 5-7-5 form, thinking it created a similar condition for 
English-language haiku. This style is what is generally considered 
"traditional" English haiku. Over the years, however, most haiku poets 
in North America became aware that 17 English syllables convey a great 
deal more information than 17 Japanese syllables, and have come to write 
haiku in fewer syllables, most often in three segments that follow a 
short-long-short pattern without a rigid structure.

For more info about haiku, groogle...er, google "haiku modern english". 
Here are a couple of links to get you started:

http://www.ahapoetry.com/keirule.htm

http://nc-haiku.org/haiku-what.htm

http://www.ahapoetry.com/haiku.htm

P.S. Hmmm...what about "groogle"...shouldn't the groop have a search 
engine that does what groo does best?   :-)

~Vaughn


Eric Chun wrote:

>Vaughn wrote:
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>>P.S. Here is a couple of haiku I wrote recently related to this:
>>
>>chilly day,
>>pigeons huddle around
>>a chimney top
>>
>>...as written by one of the pigeons:
>>
>>i squeeze
>>into a warm spot...
>>better stay awake
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>>
>
>Unless I err, I think haikus are supposed to be structured into
>3 lines, with 5 syllables in the 1st line, 7 syllables in the 2nd line,
>and 5 syllables in the 3rd line.
>
>For example, here are some Groo haikus written by minstrel
>Gary in 1999:
>
>Groo meets Umberto
>Our Groo does what Groo does best
>Beanie beans scattered
>
>Umberto at war
>Crosses paths with swords of Groo
>Umberto at peace
>
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