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<DIV><FONT size=2>OK. I have been told today that the legality of
recording something that is transmitted over publicly owned airways is still a
bit gray, but in general the consensus is that it is legal and NOT a copyright
infringement as long as you don't take what you recorded and sell it. That
IS different from file sharing or photocopying. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I still don't know what the heck ISP's and the post office
have to do with copyright infringement. And I don't know how recording a
show when you are at a meeting or your kid's basketball game so you can watch it
later or the next day, with or without ads, is a copyright infringement or how
it can possibly affect you. As I said in the last message to
you, getting up to pee during advertisements also negates their
purpose. By your logic then, getting up to pee is a copyright infringement
or hurts people in the same way as a copyright infringement..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Gary "On to Other Things" Grossmann</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=Groopunk@aol.com href="mailto:Groopunk@aol.com">Groopunk@aol.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=groop@groo.com
href="mailto:groop@groo.com">groop@groo.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:35
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Groop] RE: (Groop)
(Filesharing)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
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size=2 FAMILY="FIXED" PTSIZE="10" BACK="#ffffff">In a message dated 1/29/2004
11:23:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A
href="mailto:grossfam@olywa.net">grossfam@olywa.net</A> writes:<BR><BR>
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color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10" BACK="#ffffff">If the
photocopying of art work is illegal, then is it not the same for recording a
program?<BR> <BR>I don't know. It probably is. It's
unenforcable, unknowable, and nobody cares unless you sell it or give it
away in large quantities<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
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size=2 FAMILY="FIXED" PTSIZE="10" BACK="#ffffff"><BR>Just because you say
"it's uknowable and nobody cares" doesn't make it so. I can say that I
care, because it IS affecting me. And "selling it or [giving] it away in
large quantities" is debatable. Who determines this?<BR>As far as
enforceability goes... it isn't exactly right for ISPs to be forced to reveal
names of uploaders. And if it IS right, then should the post office not
be allowed to peruse any and all mail to be aware of the contents?<BR>If you
go to a copy shop they will most likely refuse to copy any item from a book or
published work. Heck, I once brought in MY artwork and they asked for
identification.<BR><BR>And "unless you sell it or give it away in large
quanties" negates the very argument that people have been using regarding the
Groo PDFs. Perhaps the person made only one copy to make it available
for his friend to see on the other side of the country.
Perhaps.<BR>-seth-</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
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