<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><HTML><FONT SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="FIXED" FACE="Courier New Baltic" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2004 4:25:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, grooless@yahoo.com writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Go into a music store - you can ask the attendant to put a CD on to listen to before buying.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">? - Is this illegal and is the store violating copyright</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">? - Only difference between that and Seth's "sampling" from the internet is when you leave the store you don't take the CD with you.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> - Seth's hard drive will still contain the song until he deletes it.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Now if bands/artists/labels had sample websites where you could stream and hear songs without downloading them . . . . . ?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="FIXED" FACE="Courier New Baltic" LANG="0">(1)You're suggesting the music store has every cd ready and available for customer requests? (just a question)<BR>
(2)According to other posts here, yes, it is because that store is allowing everyone in the store to hear a song and they aren't licensed to be a mini-radio station.<BR>
(3)No you don't take it with you, but the store has now broadcast a song to the store's customers - which would fall under that DVD copyright agreement discussed in an earlier email<BR>
(4) true my harddrive will still contain the song after I delete it, but I'm no longer accessing it or allowing it to be accessed my the www.<BR>
(5) Yes, it IS a great thing when artists stream some of their songs. It's very helpful and that too has assisted me in purchasing new work. Unfortunately filesharing took off before many bands were doing this.<BR>
(6) Lastly, I don't want it to come across as though I'm some massive copyright infringer. I'm really not. And it's kinda scaring me that my name is being attached and used such as "</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Seth's 'sampling' from the internet</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="FIXED" FACE="Courier New Baltic" LANG="0">" and "</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Seth's hard drive will still contain the song until he deletes it</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="FIXED" FACE="Courier New Baltic" LANG="0">." I'm simply trying to hold up another end of this issue. I think filesharing is ok when used properly/sparingly. I DO NOT support blatently ripping off artists and their ideas -at all. Not every downloader is doing it with malicious intent, that's all I'm trying to say. And the arguments against filesharing are kind of scattershot. I understand many of them, but at the same time, I don't think they hold up on a broad-based scale. For example the argument that filesharing has killed the music industry. Yes, I'm positive there's been some effect, but no one seems to ask, "Well, what about the conglomeration of companies?" "What about the unreasonably high prices of CDs?" "What about the albums that contain 85% filler and 2 singles?"<BR>
If it's the erradication of wrong-doing we're after then we should fight just as vigorously those that have illegal cable, those that make mix tapes, those that TiVo shows and edit commercials, those that have let a piece of paper fall to the ground without picking it up.<BR>
All of that stuff hurts somebody somehow, but everyone has done a bit of it. It's the rampant abuse that seriously damages everything.<BR>
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But really, please, I don't want to be the bad guy. I'm not sitting at my computer all day long sucking art off the internet and then distributing it at jacked-up prices.<BR>
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I have a LARGE music collection and aside from the stuff that was given to me I've purchased it. I like tangeable art. I buy music, I buy comics, I buy books, and I buy fine art.<BR>
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sweating nervously as the Groop hunts me down,<BR>
-seth-</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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