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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=628471421-07082007>Shane
& Tone & Everyone,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=628471421-07082007>The
issue is not whether the seller is telling a true story. He probably
is, or close enough to it. That doesn't really matter. <STRONG>What
matters is that the guy was selling, without Sergio's permission, a
representation of Groo for which Sergio has not been paid. </STRONG> I
guarentee you that when you see a Star Wars action figure prototype sell for
thousands, LucasFilms or whoever is getting a big chunk of the price.
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<DIV><SPAN class=045305918-07082007><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=628471421-07082007>So b</SPAN>y unauthorized I mean that they
made a prototype way back when in the hopes of getting an agreement with Sergio
to market it, <SPAN class=628471421-07082007>like they had for the minis,
but </SPAN>for whatever reason that never came about, so they were left with a
statue that they owned but had no real connection to Sergio and could not be
sold without Sergio's permission. (Which they didn't get)
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<DIV><SPAN class=045305918-07082007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It
wouldn't be any different if you made a Groo statue, pitched it to Sergio as an
item that could be mass produced and sold, and he turned you down. You own
the statue,but he owns the character, so legally you can't do anything with the
statue but stare at it. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=045305918-07082007><SPAN class=628471421-07082007><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>-Gary G. </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=045305918-07082007><SPAN class=628471421-07082007><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>btw, t<SPAN class=395105417-07082007><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>he only thing about the story that didn't make
sense to me was that dwtripp has been selling Groo minis for years and I thought
he was one of the partners of the long defunct Dark Horse company that made them
They were based in Idaho, but the sculptor had moved (I think to Portland) years
ago. So I thought the story was that dwtripp, as legit owner of a
large stash of minis, was selling them piecemeal on ebay over time so that the
price didn't drop too much. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=395105417-07082007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>That doesn't
quite jive with the story he gave about the prototype, but I don't think it
matters. </FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
groop-bounces@groo.com [mailto:groop-bounces@groo.com] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Shane Clarke<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:39
PM<BR><B>To:</B> sean ferris; Groop@Groo.Com; Grossmann, Gary
(DOR)<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Groop] 90mm groo<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Was it
'unauthorized' Gary?<BR><BR>I don't know about the Dark Horse line,
specifically, and it's legal ins & outs, but I deal quite in depth in the
world of 'miniatures', and it's really quite common for these "prototypes" to
exist. Is it possible the creator sculpted this to show Sergio the next
'release', but for whatever reason the company folded, and the project got
scraped?<BR><BR>I think what I'm saying, is a lot of these types of creators,
oft times create a single prototype or even a large scale version of the
desired prototype. Again, I don't know if the Dark Horse line of minis was
legal or not. The way I understood it was that the creator was working on this
as a 'next release', but things obviously fell through and thus this single
prototype (if that's what it really is).<BR><BR>~ doc clarke <BR><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Tue Aug 7 10:47 , "Grossmann, Gary (DOR)"
<GARYG@DOR.WA.GOV>sent:<BR><BR></GARYG@DOR.WA.GOV></SPAN>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I alerted
Mark to it and he decided to ignore it, which I think makes sense since it's
a one shot deal. </SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The price
was ridicules. $437 dollars for that so-called prototype! You
could get a Groo Page for that! Someone paid over $400 for a 3.5"
unauthorized Groo statue that comes in pieces. Geez.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN>
groop-bounces@groo.com [mailto:groop-bounces@groo.com] <SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN>sean ferris<BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN> Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:15
AM<BR><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN> Groop@Groo.Com<BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN> [Groop] 90mm
groo<BR><BR></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Im surprised that
no one talked about this item on ebay...</SPAN></DIV>
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target=_blank>http://cgi.ebay.com/GROO-90MM-METAL-PROTOTYPE-DARK-HORSE-UNRELEASED-1987_W0QQitemZ120145637338QQihZ002QQcategoryZ80QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</A></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>