<div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Gary,<br>
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Can you share some photos of your ant-killing adventures? I am following this drama with great interest, and want to see it before my eyes.<br>
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-Anil<br>
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From: Grossmann, Gary (DOR) <GaryG@DOR.WA.GOV><br>
To: groop@groo.com<br>
Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 5:53 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Groop] Ants!!!!!<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="474482921-17062008">Thanks to everyone for the ideas. I should explain
that this GINORMUS ant colony is in my "back 40" which is how we refer to the
back half of the one (1) acre I live on that has never been landscaped and is
all wild and surrounded on three sides with similar property. Our concern
is that the colony will expand towards humble Grossmann Manor.
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="474482921-17062008"></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="474482921-17062008">I decided not to go with Terro because the grits and
borax/sugar is supposed to do basically the same thing: Kill the workers,
but not before they feed it to the queen and kill her And Eric's article
notwithstanding, Borax sounded safer, and my understanding is that Grits are
only poisonous if you were born in New York City. I'll let you know if it
works. </span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="474482921-17062008"></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="474482921-17062008">By the way, I dumped one of the 55 gallon drums of ants
on another ant hill located on public property because I had read that if you
mix two ant hills, they will kill each other. So I was hoping for a major
Ant Fray, but I was disappointed. They just started working
together. Bummer. </span></font></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Alexander Durnan
[<a href="mailto:alexian.emperor@earthlink.net?">mailto:alexian.emperor@earthlink.net</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 17, 2008
2:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Grossmann, Gary (DOR); <a href="mailto:Tone@moon-shine.net">Tone@moon-shine.net</a>;
<a href="mailto:groop@groo.com">groop@groo.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Groop] Ants!!!!!<br>
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<div><font face="Calisto MT" size="2">Try Terro. It is poison,but you only have to
use a little bit. Its a syrup that you pour a drop on a small card, then
the ants lap it up. Within a day or two...no more ants. They feed it to
the queen and she dies. As goes the queen, so goes the colony. I've
used this successfully myself many times.</font></div>
<div><font face="Calisto MT" size="2">Alex</font></div>
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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<a title="GaryG@DOR.WA.GOV" href="mailto:GaryG@DOR.WA.GOV">Grossmann, Gary
(DOR)</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="Tone@moon-shine.net" href="mailto:Tone@moon-shine.net">Tone@moon-shine.net</a> ; <a title="groop@groo.com" href="mailto:groop@groo.com">groop@groo.com</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 17 June, 2008 11:48</div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="897552715-17062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Hi Tone!</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="897552715-17062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="897552715-17062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Thanks for the advice. I had read about
diatomaceous earth in my Internet search for effective ant killing without
complex chemical compounds. I was a little dubious about it working in
the perpetually moist Pacific Northwest, but that concern may be
misplaced. </font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="897552715-17062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">btw, I did not use gasoline. First, I dug up a
lot of the hill (and ants) and put it (them) is a 55 gallon drum I have and
just carted it off about a quarter mile. After doing that 3 times, I had
a large flat spot with a hole in the middle and about a zillion ants going
crazy. Then I spread a couple gallons of ammonia around,
hoping that if I hadn't already killed the queen that the ammonia would
do it. (It's very toxic but breaks down very quickly. Works great
on underground yellow jacket nests.) However, it only temporarily slowed
down the ants, which started rebuilding. So that's when I dug
up even more ants, making the hole even deeper and wider, and then
sprinkled several pounds of sugared borax and some grits.
Supposedly when they eat the grits, the grits swell up inside and the
ants blow up. Sort of the opposite of diatomaceous
earth. When i did the second round of digging I did not find
anymore larve, so maybe the queen is nailed and the remaining workers are
just on autopilot. One can hope. </font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="897552715-17062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="897552715-17062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Actually, Larry had the best idea. I need to find
an ant with a tiny orange tunic and a pair of teeny tiny katana and put him in
the ant hill. </font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="897552715-17062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Gary G. </font></span></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:groop-bounces@groo.com">groop-bounces@groo.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:groop-bounces@groo.com?">mailto:groop-bounces@groo.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tone<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Monday, June 16, 2008 8:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:groop@groo.com">groop@groo.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Groop] Ants!!!!!<br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Gary</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">,</span></font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="">
</span>Rather than blowing up a drum of gasoline or whatever it is you are
doing to get rid of insect pests, try something called “diatomaceous earth.”
It is a white powder that is composed of fossilized skeletons of marine and
freshwater organisms that lived 20 million years ago. A protein in it attracts
roaches and some other insects while the power scratches up their waxy outer
coating. Within a day or two the bugs die of dehydration. Also, if you leave
the stuff in place and do not get it wet, it will continue working and
working.</span></font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="">
</span>Any bug walking through the stuff gets scratched up like it is glass or
something to them. It is nontoxic and useful against ants, earwigs, fleas, sow
bugs, silverfish, millipedes, roaches, and weevils. There might still be a
company in </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Mexico</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">,
</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Missouri</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> (where
</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Mexico</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> is the
name of the town not the country) by the name of Brookstone, which sells the
stuff under the product name “Insectigone”. This might be an old number for
Brookstone, but maybe you can try your luck at it:
800-926-7000.</span></font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Sometime environmentally friendly
non-toxic solutions to problems are the best solutions. </span></font><font face="Wingdings" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Wingdings;"><span style="">J</span></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">_<i><span style="font-style: italic;">TONE</span></i>_</span></font></div>
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