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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi
Folks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hard
to say about the on demand v. in stock question. Remember, Follett will
only sell them to a school or library. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
originally thought the different ISBN was significant. But then I did
some research and found that anytime a business does anything to a book
on a business-to-business basis, it is supposed to give the book a different
ISBN, which is based on the businesses location and who the business is in
addition to the fact that the book has been altered. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
don’t know about W.W. Norton and the UY books, but the bottom line for me
with respect to the Groo trades in hardback, whether by Follett or Paw Prints, is
that they are <b><i><u>NOT</u></i></b> reprint editions in hardback published
in cooperation with Sergio & Dark Horse. They are merely soft cover
trades that a couple of companies have purchased and rebound in hardback (aka “library
binding”) format. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sergio
and Dark Horse didn’t even know they existed until I showed Sergio one at
the Con and he took it to a meeting with Dark Horse. So while they are interesting
items, I don’t see them as any different from a trade that I could take
to a bindery and have rebound in hardback format. And since they are not
Groo reprints, I will not be adding them to the Groo List (and obsessively
collect them). At least not under the reprint section. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>But
that’s just me. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gary
G. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
groop-bounces@groo.com [mailto:groop-bounces@groo.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve
Hubbell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> groo gram<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Groop] GROO Odyssey Hard Cover? (maddening@netzero.net)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I
wonder if the Follet company is a print on demand, or in this case a bind on
demand, company. All of the Usagi Yojimbo titles they list as being
available as folletbound have a 6 week shipping time, but the regular
editions ship in 1-2 weeks. <br>
<br>
They also list a "hardcover" edition of some of the books, but they
have a NORTON, W.W. listed as publisher??? The ISBN is differant as well. As
far as I've seen so far, the library editions are not considered reprints, but
they all receive their own ISBN's. <br>
<br>
Sorry for going off-topic from Groo library editions to Usagi library
editions.....<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: grossfamm@comcast.net<br>
To: groop@groo.com<br>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:06:34 -0700<br>
Subject: Re: [Groop] GROO Odyssey Hard Cover? (maddening@netzero.net)<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
just got the name backwards. That's them. </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:usagigoya@hotmail.com"
title="usagigoya@hotmail.com">Steve Hubbell</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:groop@groo.com" title="groop@groo.com">groo gram</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Saturday, September
25, 2010 12:02 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [Groop] GROO
Odyssey Hard Cover? (<a href="mailto:maddening@netzero.net">maddening@netzero.net</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>There
are a couple other companies which also have done similar library bound
hardcovers of the Usagi Yojimbo books over the years.<br>
Along with Paw Prints (which is produced the most rebound editions), there
has also been books from Sagebrush and Turtleback.<br>
<br>
The company "Taylor-Baker" sounds like a spin on the mega-giant
book distributor Baker & Taylor....<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:
garyg5678@live.com<br>
To: groop@groo.com<br>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:38:43 -0700<br>
Subject: Re: [Groop] GROO Odyssey Hard Cover? (maddening@netzero.net)<br>
<br>
Hi Folks! <br>
<br>
OK, here is everything I have found out about the Groo Trade Hardbacks:
<br>
<br>
There are two companies that produce (notice I didn’t say
"publish") the Groo hardbacks. Follett did the one on ebay. They sell
exclusively to schools & libraries, but obviously one slipped through a
crack. I think you have to be a registered "member" to buy the book
from the site Jim linked to, and you have to be a school or library to be a
member. The other company is Taylor-Baker under their "Paw Prints"
label. They sell to retailers in addition to schools and libraries, but it's
strictly business-to-business. The Paw Prints books look a little nicer because
they don't have that gap, or interruption, in the wrap around cover art that
the Follett edition has. And there is apparently a bigger market for
hardbacks overseas than domestically. <br>
<br>
Another thing I found out is that none of the trade hardbacks can be considered
"reprints." Dark Horse didn't even know they were being made! The Paw
Prints people are doing exactly the same thing as the Follett folks, just in a
different way; buying prints of the trade and rebinding them as hardbacks.
It’s no different from you taking a Groo trade to any bindery and having
them rebind it as a hardback, except these folks are anticipating the market
for such things. That's not a "reprint." So I won't be putting either
on the Groo List, although I may mention them somewhere. <br>
<br>
So that's the story. The ebay price is, of course, completely
stupid. And, of course, the guy hasn't changed his promo for the book,
even though I have told him all of the above. <br>
<br>
Take care all,<br>
<br>
Gary G. (Groo Item Investigator) <br>
<br>
<br>
> From: macquarrie@earthlink.net<br>
> To: groop@groo.com<br>
> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:49:40 -0700<br>
> Subject: Re: [Groop] GROO Odyssey Hard Cover? (maddening@netzero.net)<br>
> <br>
> I'm half-tempted to post this to the comments on that Ebay auction:<br>
> <br>
>
http://www.fes.follett.com/follett_fes_general/bookdetails.cfm?bID=8681978&bc=New&P=1&isbn=NONE&L=0&CFID=7489759&CFTOKEN=49740593<br>
> <br>
> That book is worth $10, not $2000. What a scam!<br>
> <br>
> Jim<br>
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