<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Oops, didn't mean to reply to just Gary.<br>Sorry...<br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 10/7/11, RALPH PLOWMAN <i><plowman221@btinternet.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div id="yiv1827992452"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font:inherit;" valign="top">RE Howard helped the genre along nicely himself with characters like Kull and Bran Mak Morn, an Altlantean and a Pict respectively. <br><br>Although I haven't read many of their tales, I believe that they are set in Howard's universe at different times.<br>They both also embody the savage vs civilisation theme.<br><br>Ralph<br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 10/7/11, Gary Grossmann <i><garyg5678@live.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16,
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Kaytee is correct. Robert E. Howard essentially invented the Sword & Sorcery (i.e. Barbarian) genre. While there had been some noble savges and some rogue-ish heroes, there had never been anyone quite like Conan, a man of barbaric roots wanting nothing more than adventure, gold, good wine and better women, quite often motivated by revenge, but still adhereing to a rough barbaric code of honor. The character was so vividly written by Howard that, as has been noted, it sometimes seems that every Sword and Sorcery barbarian hero story is just a Conan pastiche. <br>
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To: mygodaplum@yahoo.co.uk; groop@groo.com<br>Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:39:34 -0400<br>From: bodhikt@aol.com<br>Subject: Re: [Groop] (Not a) Conan parody<br><br><font face="arial" size="2" color="black"><br>
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<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT:3px;BORDER-LEFT:blue 2px solid;">BTW I'm not knowledgeable about these things...which came first Conan or the barbarian genre?</blockquote></div><br><br>
<div style="CLEAR:both;"></div>I'm pretty sure Robert Howard's Conan stories started the "barbarian genre"... way back in the days of pulp fiction. His stuff was too "ose" for me-- but I read all the Burroughs books I could find, and a good many of the Doc Savage novels. And I do like the Franzetta "Conan" illustrations, even though they lack cute dogs.
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