[Dynagroove] tech house and flyer AND "CLUB SURVEY" TID-BITS...

Sat Oct 12 07:20:01 PDT 2002

While I appreciate the kind words I'm really not comfortable with being 
pitted against Dynagroove in any way.  Dynagroove and Tropical have been 
going on about the same amount of time, Cade and I have always had a close 
professional relationship and have always enjoyed each other's parties.  I'm 
not sure whether people have noticed this or not, but Cade and I have helped 
out with each other's parties on numerous occasions and out of some 35 
parties there has never been a Tropical and Dynagroove on the same night.

Everyone has a right to express their opinion but please, if you respect 
what I do, don't make comments that may strain my professional 
relationships.  I try hard to be on good terms with everyone, this doesn't 
make things any easier for me...  Now I feel like it's tacky for me to post 
my party to this list because I've been set up in competition with the party 
I've worked closest with over the past 4 years.  How does this help me, or 
the scene, or anyone?

This is definitely not the email I wanted to be writing at 6:15 the morning 
of my party.  Can we please, please pull the string on this thread now?

Thanks,
Ben

>From: "The One In Ten" <iamtheoneinten at hotmail.com>
>To: "Ben Annand" 
><mrannand at hotmail.com>,<dynagroove at reelhouse.net>,<chrisneedsbass at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] tech house and flyer AND "CLUB SURVEY" 
>TID-BITS...
>Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 23:28:52 -0700
>
>
>Hi Friends,
>
>This discussion has been in my head for at least the past year!
>
>My first thought is there are WAY too many parties going on and it's TRUE.
>
>I appreciate the love of those who have enthusiasm for dance music, but 
>it's gotten a bit out of hand...at least with the "HOUSE" community!  Like 
>Ben says, it's the same people promoting to the SAME FUCKIN' PEOPLE!  It's 
>become a clique.
>
>Especially the Dynagroove clique (and yes your all a CLIQUE, Zokie, Cade, 
>Sarah, etc...).   Which isn't bad...a force united is a very good thing! 
>But,  are you aware of your purpose and impact your having on the 
>underground (which fuckin' hardly exist anymore!).  Your efforts are great 
>and should be recognized, but in my opinion are very local and quite 
>exclusive.  If your beautiful people really care about making a difference, 
>then you should search beyond yourselves...not posting so many messages 
>about "Dyanagroove" events, so many comments, so much rhetoric, etc. and 
>focus on something new and unique.  There is so much more out there...so 
>much beautiful music!
>
>This is not a plug, but a simple comment about an individual whom I've 
>respected in our community for quite a few years:  Thank gawd for Mr. 
>Annand, we will reclaim some of OUR roots this Saturday at the 4th year 
>Anniversary of TROPICAL!  Mr. Annand has always been aware of our community 
>and mantained a grip of class with the organization of the "Tropical" 
>events, and much more.  My regards...
>
>The Dynagroove parties and events have always been quality and tons of fun 
>(I can think of so many Dynagroove inspired events that have made me smile 
>HUGE), but there just too much shit going on these days and it sorta 
>de-values the entire community (and our efforts to be FREE and 
>UNDERGROUND.)
>
>It seems like you Dynagroovers are all up on the House tip, like there is 
>no other music that can make you feel the same when your out dancing!  
>There's so much to explore you guys and gals...Drum & Bass, Phsycadelic 
>Trance, 2-Step, Breakbeat, Acid Jazz,  Techno, etc!
>
>I live and LOVE L.A., but I've been around the world and I can't agree with 
>this local dance (House) community as much as I do with the rest of the 
>dance community. There's so much out there and I don't feel confident that 
>ya'll Dynagroovers recognize it!  I know some of you do (by reading your 
>post).  I must say, your quite an eclectic group of wonderful people.
>
>Anyway, too make a short story LONG, hopefully see you at EARTHDANCE!  It's 
>going to be a wonderful GLOBAL dance event, I wish to see you all there!
>
>Love Big Time,
>OneInTen
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ben Annand
>Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 10:35 AM
>To: dynagroove at reelhouse.net
>Subject: [Dynagroove] tech house and flyers and no one going out
>
> >I know I am gonna get shit for this but here goes.  I also think the 
>music
> >has turned in a different direction.   Our biggest DJs used to be fun
> >banging stuff that made everyone jolly and funloving.  But now a lot of
> >stuff is getting darker (hence the tech house uprising).  I do think this
> >has an impact on attendance.
>
>OK, I'll give you a little shit for it since no one else has.  Whoever said
>that tech-house has to be dark?  I play tech-house and I wouldn't call any
>of it dark, I don't think Rithma plays dark music and lots of other people
>that play tech-house don't play dark either. No, I don't think tech-house 
>is
>bringing the scene down...
>
>Mostly it's the economy in my book.  The point about lack of big parties to
>bring in new people is interesting, hadn't really thought of it that way 
>but
>it makes sense.
>
>I still think promoters could do a lot better if they would step out of the
>box and promote places outside of the house scene, but I still see very
>little of that going on.  Jazzanova played here a couple weeks ago and I
>think I was the only one there promoting, I bet there were 20 people
>flyering outside Free Thinking that night.  Anyway, I'm trying to retire 
>the
>flyers for Tropical, but I think it would be helpful if people flyering
>would be more creative about where they go.  If you want the house scene to
>grow you have to bring people in from outside it, you can't just pass 
>flyers
>to the same 20 househeads every week and expect things to pick up...
>
>Ben
>
> >I know I am gonna get shit for this but here goes.  I also think the 
>music
> >has turned in a different direction.   Our biggest DJs used to be fun
> >banging stuff that made everyone jolly and funloving.  But now a lot of
> >stuff is getting darker (hence the tech house uprising).  I do think this
> >has an impact on attendance.
> >
> >I also think the scene will always move in waves.  right now it is low
> >tide.  give a couple years and it will be back to where it was.
> >
> >Cade
>
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