[Dynagroove] no hate.. just trouble

Doron Orenstein doron at whoomps.com
Wed Nov 5 19:41:47 PST 2003


See, that's the problem with dance music.  It's a good-ole' boy system, just
like the ones all of us liberal artsy electronica types complain about with
our government and corporations and everything else that's wrong with the
world.  Why do you think that almost all of the superstar DJs are like 40
yrs old before they become superstars?  It's because they have to go through
all of this silly non-musical stuff before they're allowed in.  Pop and hip
hop, which are thriving, thrive off of young and new energy, while dance is
suffering the same fate as modern-day jazz, all caught up in that "keepin'
it real" kinda conservatism.

Do I think it's important that promoters and performers have an audience?
Of course I do.  But we're talking about providing an invaluable service to
people, something that really moves people to not only shake their asses,
but whip out their pocketbooks during these lean times.

If you're a promoter, and you'd rather book someone who shows up to your
party every week over someone who might not not show up all that often, but
when they do, they TRULY rock the house, then I think you're doing your
audience a disservice. As a producer/DJ/performer myself, I've gotta go work
a dayjob all week, drive over an hour each way to work, and a few times a
month rush to do a soundcheck right after work, and, oh yeah, produce new
tracks and remixes that will make the splash necessary to separate me from
the 10,000,000 other people pumpin' out house tracks right now.  To balance
the production, dayjob, and "human" parts of my life is extremely
challenging, and to think that maybe some promoters out there would
discriminate against me because I can't always work triple-duty as both
performer, producer, and audience member is really disheartening.  As if I
have nothing to contribute other than my attendance, cover charge, and bar
tab.

Of course I more than wholeheartedly support each and every person involved
in any underground scene- I think that's *amazingly cool.*  But to use your
power as a promoter to extort people into coming to your parties in exchange
for a booking is definitely ducking the issue, which is the relevance of
house music right now to the average person on the street, not your DJ
friends who are already into it.

My 2c,

--doron




----- Original Message ----- 
From: <BadIYE at aol.com>
To: <con at dynagroove.com>; <dynagroove at dynagroove.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] no hate.. just trouble


> In a message dated 11/4/03 1:50:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> con at dynagroove.com writes:
>
> > One thing I am disapointed with and I touched on it briefly was that I
> > feel like support is way out the window.  Every week I get DJs bugging
me
> > "when are you going to book me at free thinkin" and these guys/girls
don't
> > even show up to support.  I have been making a mental note on who has
been
> > supported and slowly but surely they will be booked.  Sometimes they
gotta
> > wait a year or so.. but I do get to everyone who is worthy.   But it
> > pisses me off when I get these DJs who bug me to get booked and they
don't
> > support, even if I do book them they complain about their time slot.   I
> > know I am sounding negative but to all you DJs out there I am not the
only
> > promoter to feel this way.. I am just one that has the balls to say
it...
>
> diddo
>
> Imad
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