[Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape, and the LA underground scene...

Mon Jun 25 20:08:54 PDT 2007

just to add a little more...

i think a some out of towners is great.  say a 3 room party, 1 or 2 out of
towners and 3 or 4 locals in each room.  just not ALL out of towners in each
room.

more thoughts i had today:

if you go up to san francisco to go to a party, who are you excited to see
when you go up there?  san francisco djs right?

one more thing... i think cade and hawt and some of the house party crews do
a great job of having locals play with 1 or 2 out of towners, good job!
just like to see the bigger annual parties do this as well.  i really
believe you would get the same amount of people, just promote your locals
the same way you promote your out of towners.  last jujubeats i remember
spinning here was the order on the main stage:  jasen, wally c, jason b, dj
dan, sneak (out of town), doc.  all LA.  i think they got, oh, around 15k. 

Jason Blakemore

www.JasonBlakemore.com

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From: dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com
[mailto:dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com] On Behalf Of JON SMITH
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:27 PM
To: splaticus at aol.com; dynagroove at dynagroove.com
Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape, and the LA
underground scene...

I like what the two jasons have said. They are both very well respected  and
have experience in the LA scene that eclipses the majority of us on  this
list. However, I think that the idea of locals pulling weight is  somewhat
utopian. Regardless of what people say, the idea for promoters  is to pull
their numbers. In most cases advancement of the scene is  secondary to
making back the money they put into it, which is  understandable considering
the thousands of dollars that promoters  risk. The truth of the matter is
that an out of towner, or whole line  up them, is going to pull
significantly more people than a local  line-up. I know I do it myself.
After several years in the scene, it's  hard to get excited for the same
people you can see at a bar on a  Tuesday in Tustin.  But, if we want to
push the local LA scene,  the only way to do that is to let our dollars
talk. Support a party of  nothing but locals. After a few sell out,
promoters will get the hint.  It's not like  they want to pay the
astronomical booking fees; deal with  asshole agents, silly contract riders,
airline tickets, and rockstar  attitudes. I am sure they would much prefer
to book a lineup they can  confirm using their myspace buddy list. So I
guess my point is to all  of the people who seconded, thirded and etc. the
comments that have  been said on this list, next time you are choosing how
to spend your  money, go to local show instead of paying to see the new
producer du  jour. Or else, quit complaining. 

  Joe Kick Ass

splaticus at aol.com wrote:  Good points, J...

The parties I remember in early 1990s LA featured all LA DJs.
I think mainly because the scene was just starting out.

Then slowly the parties got bigger, and news traveled..? other market's
scenes started blossoming on a national level. 

At  first, I think the whole out of town headliner' thing was a promoters'
attempt to connect us all with a 'patchwork quilt' of different  regional
sounds- and also a way to show us all, 'look how our scene is  growing', and
educate us on what else is going on out there.

But there was still usually a good balance of strong local talent at these
parties.

Nowadays,  having a big massive dance event in LA (or anywhere) with no
local  talent in the main area is getting away from that original formula
(see  above).

I think there should always be strong local DJs at the big parties to give
the event a local face, otherwise what's to differentiate one 'massive' from
another in city after city?

This  is why Grape Ape can do what they are doing, they are going back to
that original formula that was growing the scene in the 90's..

Jason Splat
Addicted presents Smurfy4/ Mushroom Village - Sat. July 21st -
myspace.com/addictedevents_info

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From: Lisa Libutti 
To: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
Sent: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 8:47 am
Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape, and the LA
underground scene...

werd

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[mailto:dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com]On Behalf Of Jason bLAkemore
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:42 PM
To: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
Subject: [Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape,and the LA underground
scene...

Future Ape:  they are doing everything i think the scene needs.  some out of
towners, but mostly all the long time LA locals.  and the same amount of
hype that would go along with anyone in some magazine's top50 whatevers.
when promoters book ALL out of town djs, it makes people think our locals
are just, well, locals.  but locals from where?  THE LOS ANGELES UNDERGOUND!
let's hype up RAW, let's hype up Ron D Core, Steve Loria, Barry Weaver,
Fester!  Many of the "big show" promoters used to use us all, but somehow
got caught up in...  i don't know what...  I love you Pasquale, and you know
it, but NOT ONE LA dj in the house or trance room at EDC?  What does that do
for the morale of the LA raver and their feeling about THEIR DJs?  People
used to flock in just as many numbers to see Taylor, Sandra, Eli Star...
don't believe the hype it's a sequel!  Future Ape...  what are they
doing????  AMAZING promotion...  with who?  Ron D core, Fester, RAW, mostly
LA "legends"... and a few tried and true old school out-a towners like
Frankie Bones.  Trust me, we know how to rock the crowd.  But my main point
is when the big parties book NO LA djs, it sends a message that LA djs
aren't as good as these famed out of town djs.  BULLSHIT!  I got into the
scene and WORSHIPED Doc Martin, DJ Dan, Ron D Core, Steve Loria, Barry
Weaver...  Let's show the world that LA has world class DJs, and that if you
wanna see them, you gotta come here!  THANK YOU Future Ape for doing this...
I've been waiting for this...  LA's the place.

Jason Blakemore

6/24/07

Jason Blakemore

www.JasonBlakemore.com 

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