[Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape, and the LA underground scene...

Wed Jun 27 15:28:23 PDT 2007

good post eddie

and for those who aren't familiar with the movin' message board .. check it 
out
registration is easy .. well you know.  http://movin-ent.com/forum/index.php

a room with different styles of dance music?
that would be nice... i know a while back burritos and chronic tried to 
bring together and represent the dif elements of our house scene last fall 
was it ... with big bang. ?  it's a better experience for the dancer and 
music connoisseur overall... people don't like to step outside their comfort 
zone and i understand this .. but there is so much diversity when it comes 
to the los angeles underground .. you'd be doing yourself a disservice by 
not taste testing as much as you can .. somehow .. los angeles has become a 
mecca for music .. not just electronic music i assume.. although this is 
what i'm familiar with... let's show them what we got. :)

you know .. this same hope has been repeated and repeated. but imo people 
have too much ego to make it happen...  ALSO promoters aren't familiar 
(which again is understandable) with anything other than their immediate 
"community" and fall short in representing many aspects of los angeles above 
and underground electronic sound.. therefore not pulling the many dancers 
who would be ecstatic to dance all night under one house ...  let's promote 
diversity and open mindedness when it comes to good electronic music and 
maybe then one day we can reach that promised land .. ya i have a dream 
today.. techno children and house children will join dancefloors as sisters 
and brothers... ok ok please stop me.. hehe

come play:
http://movin-ent.com/forum/index.php

>From: "Nice Guy" <dynalist at gmail.com>
>To: "Jason bLAkemore" <lifemusic at cox.net>
>CC: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
>Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape, and the LA  
>underground scene...
>Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:57:20 -0700
>
>This is a really great dialogue going on right now, thanks to all who are
>putting in there 2 cents... and francisco, very well put!
>
>jason, thanks for the kind words, it's quite a compliment come from someone
>i regard as a pillar of the Los Angeles underground; we definitely try to
>showcase our great local talent at HAWT -
>
>the one thing i wanted to touch upon was the comment you made about having 
>a
>3-room party Hell Yeah!... i think it's GREAT! but when was the last time
>THAT ever happend? i miss those kind of parties too...ideally we could even
>have a nice variety in the sense that one room would be funky/jackin/etc.,
>the second room could be deeper/techier/etc. and the third could be
>downtempo/mushroom jazzy stuff...
>
>in my opinion these three seem to be "generally" the types of music that 
>you
>can pick from going out to on a friday/saturday night ...so why pick?!?!?
>why not have them all in one spot...it'd be DOPE to go to a party where you
>can float about those different moods...cuz let's face it... you KNOW some
>people with whom you go to Root Down or say Firecracker with, that may not
>be down to go to a HAWT or say Deeper Moods party cuz it's not their thing,
>and vice versa... So wouldn't it be nice to have a party where you can see
>ALL your friends from different circles, enjoy your favorite TYPES of
>music...the minute i win the lottery i'm i'm buying a multi-level building
>(ala 1015 folsom) to have a different genre on every floor... didn't the
>variety arts center in downtown do the same thing? what were those events
>called again?
>
>i know this went a little off topic, bringing this back to jason's formula:
>
>"3 room party, 1 or 2 out of towners and 3 or 4 locals in each room.  just
>not ALL out of towners in each room.
>
>you're still giving the crowd out of town talent, but in the process
>showcasing a LARGE number of local talent.
>
>  case in point is that having these parties kills about 6 birds with 3
>stones, or something like that...
>
>
>and what Tina said too... check out the Movin message board... more great
>dialogue to be found...and had.
>
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>On 6/25/07, Jason bLAkemore <lifemusic at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > just to add a little more...
> >
> > i think a some out of towners is great.  say a 3 room party, 1 or 2 out 
>of
> > towners and 3 or 4 locals in each room.  just not ALL out of towners in
> > each
> > room.
> >
> > more thoughts i had today:
> >
> > if you go up to san francisco to go to a party, who are you excited to 
>see
> > when you go up there?  san francisco djs right?
> >
> > one more thing... i think cade and hawt and some of the house party 
>crews
> > do
> > a great job of having locals play with 1 or 2 out of towners, good job!
> > just like to see the bigger annual parties do this as well.  i really
> > believe you would get the same amount of people, just promote your 
>locals
> > the same way you promote your out of towners.  last jujubeats i remember
> > spinning here was the order on the main stage:  jasen, wally c, jason b,
> > dj
> > dan, sneak (out of town), doc.  all LA.  i think they got, oh, around 
>15k.
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> > Jason Blakemore
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> > www.JasonBlakemore.com
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> > Sent from my plain old home computer.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com
> > [mailto:dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com] On Behalf Of JON SMITH
> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:27 PM
> > To: splaticus at aol.com; dynagroove at dynagroove.com
> > Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape, and the LA
> > underground scene...
> >
> > I like what the two jasons have said. They are both very well
> > respected  and
> > have experience in the LA scene that eclipses the majority of us on  
>this
> > list. However, I think that the idea of locals pulling weight is  
>somewhat
> > utopian. Regardless of what people say, the idea for promoters  is to 
>pull
> > their numbers. In most cases advancement of the scene is  secondary to
> > making back the money they put into it, which is  understandable
> > considering
> > the thousands of dollars that promoters  risk. The truth of the matter 
>is
> > that an out of towner, or whole line  up them, is going to pull
> > significantly more people than a local  line-up. I know I do it myself.
> > After several years in the scene, it's  hard to get excited for the same
> > people you can see at a bar on a  Tuesday in Tustin.  But, if we want to
> > push the local LA scene,  the only way to do that is to let our dollars
> > talk. Support a party of  nothing but locals. After a few sell out,
> > promoters will get the hint.  It's not like  they want to pay the
> > astronomical booking fees; deal with  asshole agents, silly contract
> > riders,
> > airline tickets, and rockstar  attitudes. I am sure they would much 
>prefer
> > to book a lineup they can  confirm using their myspace buddy list. So I
> > guess my point is to all  of the people who seconded, thirded and etc. 
>the
> > comments that have  been said on this list, next time you are choosing 
>how
> > to spend your  money, go to local show instead of paying to see the new
> > producer du  jour. Or else, quit complaining.
> >
> >   Joe Kick Ass
> >
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> > splaticus at aol.com wrote:  Good points, J...
> >
> > The parties I remember in early 1990s LA featured all LA DJs.
> > I think mainly because the scene was just starting out.
> >
> > Then slowly the parties got bigger, and news traveled..? other market's
> > scenes started blossoming on a national level.
> >
> > At  first, I think the whole out of town headliner' thing was a 
>promoters'
> > attempt to connect us all with a 'patchwork quilt' of different  
>regional
> > sounds- and also a way to show us all, 'look how our scene is  growing',
> > and
> > educate us on what else is going on out there.
> >
> > But there was still usually a good balance of strong local talent at 
>these
> > parties.
> >
> > Nowadays,  having a big massive dance event in LA (or anywhere) with no
> > local  talent in the main area is getting away from that original 
>formula
> > (see  above).
> >
> > I think there should always be strong local DJs at the big parties to 
>give
> > the event a local face, otherwise what's to differentiate one 'massive'
> > from
> > another in city after city?
> >
> > This  is why Grape Ape can do what they are doing, they are going back 
>to
> > that original formula that was growing the scene in the 90's..
> >
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> > Jason Splat
> > Addicted presents Smurfy4/ Mushroom Village - Sat. July 21st -
> > myspace.com/addictedevents_info
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lisa Libutti
> > To: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
> > Sent: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 8:47 am
> > Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape, and the LA
> > underground scene...
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com
> > [mailto:dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com]On Behalf Of Jason bLAkemore
> > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:42 PM
> > To: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
> > Subject: [Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape,and the LA underground
> > scene...
> >
> >
> > Future Ape:  they are doing everything i think the scene needs.  some 
>out
> > of
> > towners, but mostly all the long time LA locals.  and the same amount of
> > hype that would go along with anyone in some magazine's top50 whatevers.
> > when promoters book ALL out of town djs, it makes people think our 
>locals
> > are just, well, locals.  but locals from where?  THE LOS ANGELES
> > UNDERGOUND!
> > let's hype up RAW, let's hype up Ron D Core, Steve Loria, Barry Weaver,
> > Fester!  Many of the "big show" promoters used to use us all, but 
>somehow
> > got caught up in...  i don't know what...  I love you Pasquale, and you
> > know
> > it, but NOT ONE LA dj in the house or trance room at EDC?  What does 
>that
> > do
> > for the morale of the LA raver and their feeling about THEIR DJs?  
>People
> > used to flock in just as many numbers to see Taylor, Sandra, Eli Star...
> > don't believe the hype it's a sequel!  Future Ape...  what are they
> > doing????  AMAZING promotion...  with who?  Ron D core, Fester, RAW,
> > mostly
> > LA "legends"... and a few tried and true old school out-a towners like
> > Frankie Bones.  Trust me, we know how to rock the crowd.  But my main
> > point
> > is when the big parties book NO LA djs, it sends a message that LA djs
> > aren't as good as these famed out of town djs.  BULLSHIT!  I got into 
>the
> > scene and WORSHIPED Doc Martin, DJ Dan, Ron D Core, Steve Loria, Barry
> > Weaver...  Let's show the world that LA has world class DJs, and that if
> > you
> > wanna see them, you gotta come here!  THANK YOU Future Ape for doing
> > this...
> > I've been waiting for this...  LA's the place.
> >
> > Jason Blakemore
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> > 6/24/07
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