[Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape, and the LA underground scene...

benjamin at bodyrockdjs.com benjamin at bodyrockdjs.com
Wed Jun 27 17:11:46 PDT 2007 

Friday night there is a little party with house and techno that we are
gonna play at.  hit me up for details.  all night affair type thingy.

> good post eddie
>
> and for those who aren't familiar with the movin' message board .. check
> it
> out
> registration is easy .. well you know.
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> a room with different styles of dance music?
> that would be nice... i know a while back burritos and chronic tried to
> bring together and represent the dif elements of our house scene last fall
> was it ... with big bang. ?  it's a better experience for the dancer and
> music connoisseur overall... people don't like to step outside their
> comfort
> zone and i understand this .. but there is so much diversity when it comes
> to the los angeles underground .. you'd be doing yourself a disservice by
> not taste testing as much as you can .. somehow .. los angeles has become
> a
> mecca for music .. not just electronic music i assume.. although this is
> what i'm familiar with... let's show them what we got. :)
>
> you know .. this same hope has been repeated and repeated. but imo people
> have too much ego to make it happen...  ALSO promoters aren't familiar
> (which again is understandable) with anything other than their immediate
> "community" and fall short in representing many aspects of los angeles
> above
> and underground electronic sound.. therefore not pulling the many dancers
> who would be ecstatic to dance all night under one house ...  let's
> promote
> diversity and open mindedness when it comes to good electronic music and
> maybe then one day we can reach that promised land .. ya i have a dream
> today.. techno children and house children will join dancefloors as
> sisters
> and brothers... ok ok please stop me.. hehe
>
> come play:
> http://movin-ent.com/forum/index.php
>
>>From: "Nice Guy" <dynalist at gmail.com>
>>To: "Jason bLAkemore" <lifemusic at cox.net>
>>CC: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
>>Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape, and the LA
>>underground scene...
>>Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:57:20 -0700
>>
>>This is a really great dialogue going on right now, thanks to all who are
>>putting in there 2 cents... and francisco, very well put!
>>
>>jason, thanks for the kind words, it's quite a compliment come from
>> someone
>>i regard as a pillar of the Los Angeles underground; we definitely try to
>>showcase our great local talent at HAWT -
>>
>>the one thing i wanted to touch upon was the comment you made about
>> having
>>a
>>3-room party Hell Yeah!... i think it's GREAT! but when was the last time
>>THAT ever happend? i miss those kind of parties too...ideally we could
>> even
>>have a nice variety in the sense that one room would be
>> funky/jackin/etc.,
>>the second room could be deeper/techier/etc. and the third could be
>>downtempo/mushroom jazzy stuff...
>>
>>in my opinion these three seem to be "generally" the types of music that
>>you
>>can pick from going out to on a friday/saturday night ...so why pick?!?!?
>>why not have them all in one spot...it'd be DOPE to go to a party where
>> you
>>can float about those different moods...cuz let's face it... you KNOW
>> some
>>people with whom you go to Root Down or say Firecracker with, that may
>> not
>>be down to go to a HAWT or say Deeper Moods party cuz it's not their
>> thing,
>>and vice versa... So wouldn't it be nice to have a party where you can
>> see
>>ALL your friends from different circles, enjoy your favorite TYPES of
>>music...the minute i win the lottery i'm i'm buying a multi-level
>> building
>>(ala 1015 folsom) to have a different genre on every floor... didn't the
>>variety arts center in downtown do the same thing? what were those events
>>called again?
>>
>>i know this went a little off topic, bringing this back to jason's
>> formula:
>>
>>"3 room party, 1 or 2 out of towners and 3 or 4 locals in each room.
>> just
>>not ALL out of towners in each room.
>>
>>you're still giving the crowd out of town talent, but in the process
>>showcasing a LARGE number of local talent.
>>
>>  case in point is that having these parties kills about 6 birds with 3
>>stones, or something like that...
>>
>>
>>and what Tina said too... check out the Movin message board... more great
>>dialogue to be found...and had.
>>
>>
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>>On 6/25/07, Jason bLAkemore <lifemusic at cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > just to add a little more...
>> >
>> > i think a some out of towners is great.  say a 3 room party, 1 or 2
>> out
>>of
>> > towners and 3 or 4 locals in each room.  just not ALL out of towners
>> in
>> > each
>> > room.
>> >
>> > more thoughts i had today:
>> >
>> > if you go up to san francisco to go to a party, who are you excited to
>>see
>> > when you go up there?  san francisco djs right?
>> >
>> > one more thing... i think cade and hawt and some of the house party
>>crews
>> > do
>> > a great job of having locals play with 1 or 2 out of towners, good
>> job!
>> > just like to see the bigger annual parties do this as well.  i really
>> > believe you would get the same amount of people, just promote your
>>locals
>> > the same way you promote your out of towners.  last jujubeats i
>> remember
>> > spinning here was the order on the main stage:  jasen, wally c, jason
>> b,
>> > dj
>> > dan, sneak (out of town), doc.  all LA.  i think they got, oh, around
>>15k.
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>> > Jason Blakemore
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>> > www.JasonBlakemore.com
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>> > Sent from my plain old home computer.
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com
>> > [mailto:dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com] On Behalf Of JON SMITH
>> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:27 PM
>> > To: splaticus at aol.com; dynagroove at dynagroove.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape, and the LA
>> > underground scene...
>> >
>> > I like what the two jasons have said. They are both very well
>> > respected  and
>> > have experience in the LA scene that eclipses the majority of us on
>>this
>> > list. However, I think that the idea of locals pulling weight is
>>somewhat
>> > utopian. Regardless of what people say, the idea for promoters  is to
>>pull
>> > their numbers. In most cases advancement of the scene is  secondary to
>> > making back the money they put into it, which is  understandable
>> > considering
>> > the thousands of dollars that promoters  risk. The truth of the matter
>>is
>> > that an out of towner, or whole line  up them, is going to pull
>> > significantly more people than a local  line-up. I know I do it
>> myself.
>> > After several years in the scene, it's  hard to get excited for the
>> same
>> > people you can see at a bar on a  Tuesday in Tustin.  But, if we want
>> to
>> > push the local LA scene,  the only way to do that is to let our
>> dollars
>> > talk. Support a party of  nothing but locals. After a few sell out,
>> > promoters will get the hint.  It's not like  they want to pay the
>> > astronomical booking fees; deal with  asshole agents, silly contract
>> > riders,
>> > airline tickets, and rockstar  attitudes. I am sure they would much
>>prefer
>> > to book a lineup they can  confirm using their myspace buddy list. So
>> I
>> > guess my point is to all  of the people who seconded, thirded and etc.
>>the
>> > comments that have  been said on this list, next time you are choosing
>>how
>> > to spend your  money, go to local show instead of paying to see the
>> new
>> > producer du  jour. Or else, quit complaining.
>> >
>> >   Joe Kick Ass
>> >
>> >
>> > splaticus at aol.com wrote:  Good points, J...
>> >
>> > The parties I remember in early 1990s LA featured all LA DJs.
>> > I think mainly because the scene was just starting out.
>> >
>> > Then slowly the parties got bigger, and news traveled..? other
>> market's
>> > scenes started blossoming on a national level.
>> >
>> > At  first, I think the whole out of town headliner' thing was a
>>promoters'
>> > attempt to connect us all with a 'patchwork quilt' of different
>>regional
>> > sounds- and also a way to show us all, 'look how our scene is
>> growing',
>> > and
>> > educate us on what else is going on out there.
>> >
>> > But there was still usually a good balance of strong local talent at
>>these
>> > parties.
>> >
>> > Nowadays,  having a big massive dance event in LA (or anywhere) with
>> no
>> > local  talent in the main area is getting away from that original
>>formula
>> > (see  above).
>> >
>> > I think there should always be strong local DJs at the big parties to
>>give
>> > the event a local face, otherwise what's to differentiate one
>> 'massive'
>> > from
>> > another in city after city?
>> >
>> > This  is why Grape Ape can do what they are doing, they are going back
>>to
>> > that original formula that was growing the scene in the 90's..
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jason Splat
>> > Addicted presents Smurfy4/ Mushroom Village - Sat. July 21st -
>> > myspace.com/addictedevents_info
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Lisa Libutti
>> > To: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
>> > Sent: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 8:47 am
>> > Subject: Re: [Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape, and the LA
>> > underground scene...
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com
>> > [mailto:dynagroove-bounces at dynagroove.com]On Behalf Of Jason bLAkemore
>> > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:42 PM
>> > To: dynagroove at dynagroove.com
>> > Subject: [Dynagroove] my opinion about Future Ape,and the LA
>> underground
>> > scene...
>> >
>> >
>> > Future Ape:  they are doing everything i think the scene needs.  some
>>out
>> > of
>> > towners, but mostly all the long time LA locals.  and the same amount
>> of
>> > hype that would go along with anyone in some magazine's top50
>> whatevers.
>> > when promoters book ALL out of town djs, it makes people think our
>>locals
>> > are just, well, locals.  but locals from where?  THE LOS ANGELES
>> > UNDERGOUND!
>> > let's hype up RAW, let's hype up Ron D Core, Steve Loria, Barry
>> Weaver,
>> > Fester!  Many of the "big show" promoters used to use us all, but
>>somehow
>> > got caught up in...  i don't know what...  I love you Pasquale, and
>> you
>> > know
>> > it, but NOT ONE LA dj in the house or trance room at EDC?  What does
>>that
>> > do
>> > for the morale of the LA raver and their feeling about THEIR DJs?
>>People
>> > used to flock in just as many numbers to see Taylor, Sandra, Eli
>> Star...
>> > don't believe the hype it's a sequel!  Future Ape...  what are they
>> > doing????  AMAZING promotion...  with who?  Ron D core, Fester, RAW,
>> > mostly
>> > LA "legends"... and a few tried and true old school out-a towners like
>> > Frankie Bones.  Trust me, we know how to rock the crowd.  But my main
>> > point
>> > is when the big parties book NO LA djs, it sends a message that LA djs
>> > aren't as good as these famed out of town djs.  BULLSHIT!  I got into
>>the
>> > scene and WORSHIPED Doc Martin, DJ Dan, Ron D Core, Steve Loria, Barry
>> > Weaver...  Let's show the world that LA has world class DJs, and that
>> if
>> > you
>> > wanna see them, you gotta come here!  THANK YOU Future Ape for doing
>> > this...
>> > I've been waiting for this...  LA's the place.
>> >
>> > Jason Blakemore
>> >
>> > 6/24/07
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