[Groop]groo flash cartoon?

Magnus Lindgren groo@hem.passagen.se
Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:20:32 +0100


I'd be willing to undertake a project like that! I know alot about 
programming on the web, I own a computer software firm in Sweden where I 
live and we sell e-commerce solutions so I know a lot about security, 
programming etc that would be needed in this kind of project.

The problem is the images, you don't want people to copy entire issues 
easily from your site. I could write programs that would protect the images 
of the comics so that it would be very hard to copy them (it would be 
easier to re-scan them) and this without lowering the quality for the 
people reading them where they are.

I think it is a great idea.. that is if Mark, Sergio & co thinks it is I 
also think it is ;-)

/Magnus

At 17:00 2001-02-15, Josh 'Evening O' Jones wrote:
>And I'd be more than willing to host it for free and at groo.com! That
>cuts out about 25 million dollars from the budget right there!
>
>But what would be really cool is an online archive of all the old groos.
>I'm sure Sergio (or ME or Tom or Stan) doesn't get much (any?) revenues
>from those anymore, and doesn't Sergio still own the rights to them? They
>could each be little flash "animations" with navigational tools that had
>each page scanned in. I'd bet groopies would be more than willing to do
>the scanning work even..
>
>Then you either give them all away for free and ask for donations, or sell
>new ones, or you charge a really modest fee for access to the entire old
>collection, or maybe you charge per issue even, like a dime each. I don't
>know, I think it could work. To make successful websites people just have
>to get over the idea that it costs a lot to run them, and they should
>throw a lot of money at it. That's the whole _thing_ about the web, it
>DOESN'T cost much. One person running a site from a $20/month hosting
>account can compete with the 200-person companies burning through a
>million dollars a week (which is exactly why those big sites crumble).
>
>And if you start charging for content from the beginning, you'll slowly
>but surely build up a PAYING membership, which will support the site
>throughout the process, always keeping it profitable. If you go with the
>free for everybody for everything from the get-go, you'll get a lot more
>users, but you'll lose them all when you eventually go bankrupt anyway!
>
>Anyway, I think Sergio could make it work, and be modestly profitable. Put
>up the archive of the comics, charge a monthly subscription fee of like
>$3 to access them all unlimited times (payable yearly), and put the new
>issues when they come out in there too. He could esily get 200 subscribers
>off the bat (groopies!) which would be $7200 that should easily cover the
>set up expenses. Then mention it in the groo-grams for four or five months
>(or ALWAYS) and the subscription base will slowly grow. Think about all
>the people who wanted a complete groo collection but couldn't get
>it? Especially people overseas! Heck, to go and find all the back issues
>of groo and buy them all would probably cost at least 10 years worth of
>the subscription. You could sell a lifetime membership for like $200 or
>something too..
>
>Anyway, if Sergio doesn't want to do it, maybe he'd authorize a bunch of
>independent Groopies to try it and he gets a big cut or something!
>
>josh!
>
>On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Chad Riden wrote:
>
> > > ME: "Cash in?"  You obviously haven't been looking at the financial
> > > figures for Internet sites, especially those featuring flash
> > > animation.
> >
> > No, I pay attention.. I work as a web designer / developer (previously in
> > broadcasting).
> >
> > > successful of them all.  It lost 40 million dollars and is now close
> >
> > across the board, most overstaffed internet sites are downsizing and
> > losing money. i hear about so-and-so laying off hundreds of people... and
> > i wonder, "what were they all DOING??"
> >
> > i don't mean some huge, bloated site with tons of employees.. i think
> > sergio should have something like you have. more of a showcase.. a
> > promotional thing for his own projects. I was thinking a short GROO
> > animation would be cool. In itself, it wouldn't make you money... but if
> > Groo fans heard that Sergio had a flash movie up, they'd go! And if he had
> > a promo for his latest book up on the front page, maybe he would raise
> > awareness of his work. Maybe the people who've stopped going to comic book
> > shops would see that and think, "wow! Sergio's still doing it! Boy do I
> > miss him. I'll go buy that." I dunno. It just seems to me that the comics
> > industry in general has been poorly promoted & if there's a time to try
> > something new - it's now.
> >
> > > If there's money to be made doing animation for the web, no one's yet
> > > figured out how to do it.
> >
> > actually, us programmers are doing pretty well for ourselves.
> >
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