[Groop]San Diego Comic Con
Mark Brown
MARK@6thebrownhouse.freeserve.co.uk
Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:34:17 +0100
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>> putting a price on it should satisfy said laws.
Didnt help Hugh Grant though...... (sorry Eric)
M
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From: groop-admin@groo.com [mailto:groop-admin@groo.com]On Behalf Of
Bodhikt@aol.com
Sent: 31 May 2001 16:46
To: Groop@groo.com
Subject: Re: [Groop]San Diego Comic Con
In a message dated 5/30/01 10:35:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
grossfam@olywa.net writes:
Check with Mark, if he hasn't sent you a message already. You can't
sell
anything with Groo's likeness on it without Sergio's permission. -Gary
G.
Thanks, Gary! Actually, it's Rufferto's likeness, but.... If Mark doesn't
answer soon, I'll write to him directly.
The reason I asked, tho', is that most of the art at CC's art show has to
do
with copyrighted or trademarked images, whether or not it is "for sale",
and
few of the pieces "for sale" are by the original creators. All the Art
Show
rules say is, you need to credit the copyright holder on the description
of
the piece, giving the impression that there is some waiver of the need to
get
official permission to use the image(s).
Copyright laws get pretty fuzzy, too; there are commercially available
bead
patterns using famous images with no indication that the original
artist/artist's estate, etc., is in anyway compensated -- the "reasoning"
behind this is, it's not the same medium as the original (paintings,
photos,
etc.). I won't be selling the pattern, however. The only reason to put the
piece itself up "for sale", is to avoid problems with the IRS & Ca.
tax/business laws. Like I said, the price would probably too high to get a
buyer at the CC, even using minimum wage in the "labor" calculations, but
putting a price on it should satisfy said laws.
Kaytee
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<BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans =
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lang=3D0 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT">In a message dated 5/30/01 =
10:35:23 PM Pacific=20
Daylight Time, <BR>grossfam@olywa.net writes: <BR><BR></FONT><FONT=20
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TYPE=3D"CITE">Check with Mark, if he hasn't sent you a message =
already.=20
You can't sell <BR>anything with Groo's likeness on it without =
Sergio's permission. -Gary G. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#000000 face=3D"Comic Sans MS" lang=3D0 size=3D2 =
FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT"><BR>Thanks,=20
Gary! Actually, it's Rufferto's likeness, but.... If Mark =
doesn't=20
<BR>answer soon, I'll write to him directly. <BR>The reason I asked, =
tho', is=20
that most of the art at CC's art show has to do <BR>with copyrighted =
or=20
trademarked images, whether or not it is "for sale", and <BR>few of =
the pieces=20
"for sale" are by the original creators. All the Art Show <BR>rules =
say is,=20
you need to credit the copyright holder on the description of <BR>the =
piece,=20
giving the impression that there is some waiver of the need to get=20
<BR>official permission to use the image(s). <BR>Copyright laws get =
pretty=20
fuzzy, too; there are commercially available bead <BR>patterns using =
famous=20
images with no indication that the original <BR>artist/artist's =
estate, etc.,=20
is in anyway compensated -- the "reasoning" <BR>behind this is, it's =
not the=20
same medium as the original (paintings, photos, <BR>etc.). I won't be =
selling=20
the pattern, however. The only reason to put the <BR>piece itself up =
"for=20
sale", is to avoid problems with the IRS & Ca. <BR>tax/business =
laws. Like=20
I said, the price would probably too high to get a <BR>buyer at the =
CC, even=20
using minimum wage in the "labor" calculations, but <BR>putting a =
price on it=20
should satisfy said laws. <BR><BR>Kaytee</FONT>=20
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