[Groop]San Diego Comic Con

Thu, 31 May 2001 11:45:52 EDT

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In a message dated 5/30/01 10:35:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
grossfam@olywa.net writes:

> Check with Mark, if he hasn't sent you a message already.  You can't sell 
> anything with Groo's likeness on it without Sergio's permission.  

Thanks, Gary! Actually, it's Rufferto's likeness, but....  If Mark doesn't 
answer soon, I'll write to him directly.
The reason I asked, tho', is that most of the art at CC's art show has to do 
with copyrighted or trademarked images, whether or not it is "for sale", and 
few of the pieces "for sale" are by the original creators. All the Art Show 
rules say is, you need to credit the copyright holder on the description of 
the piece, giving the impression that there is some waiver of the need to get 
official permission to use the image(s). 
Copyright laws get pretty fuzzy, too; there are commercially available bead 
patterns using famous images with no indication that the original 
artist/artist's estate, etc., is in anyway compensated -- the "reasoning" 
behind this is, it's not the same medium as the original (paintings, photos, 
etc.). I won't be selling the pattern, however. The only reason to put the 
piece itself up "for sale", is to avoid problems with the IRS & Ca. 
tax/business laws. Like I said, the price would probably too high to get a 
buyer at the CC, even using minimum wage in the "labor" calculations, but 
putting a price on it should satisfy said laws. 

Kaytee

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<HTML>In a message dated 5/30/01 10:35:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 grossfam@olywa.net writes:
 
 
 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Check with Mark, if he hasn't sent you a message already. &nbsp;You can't sell 
 anything with Groo's likeness on it without Sergio's permission. &nbsp;-Gary G. </BLOCKQUOTE>
 
 Thanks, Gary! Actually, it's Rufferto's likeness, but.... &nbsp;If Mark doesn't 
 answer soon, I'll write to him directly.
 The reason I asked, tho', is that most of the art at CC's art show has to do 
 with copyrighted or trademarked images, whether or not it is "for sale", and 
 few of the pieces "for sale" are by the original creators. All the Art Show 
 rules say is, you need to credit the copyright holder on the description of 
 the piece, giving the impression that there is some waiver of the need to get 
 official permission to use the image(s). 
 Copyright laws get pretty fuzzy, too; there are commercially available bead 
 patterns using famous images with no indication that the original 
 artist/artist's estate, etc., is in anyway compensated -- the "reasoning" 
 behind this is, it's not the same medium as the original (paintings, photos, 
 etc.). I won't be selling the pattern, however. The only reason to put the 
 piece itself up "for sale", is to avoid problems with the IRS &amp; Ca. 
 tax/business laws. Like I said, the price would probably too high to get a 
 buyer at the CC, even using minimum wage in the "labor" calculations, but 
 putting a price on it should satisfy said laws. 
 
 Kaytee</HTML>

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