[Groop]Groo in swedish history (part 2)
Gary Grossmann
grossfam@olywa.net
Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:04:10 -0800
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Amazing!
What a great story of disaster & Groo. (pardone me for being =
redundant.) Mark, you'll pass Oskar's piece of history onto to Sergio, =
won't you? -Gary G. =20
PS to Elie, Groo is very nuetral. He slays everyone. =20
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From: Oskar Sj=F6str=F6m=20
To: groop@groo.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:22 PM
Subject: [Groop]Groo in swedish history (part 2)
For more than a year ago, I wrote you an article about som spooky and =
coincidal appearences of the name Groo (though in many forms, such as =
Grooth or Gropius and I specially recall one, most suspectible, called =
Groopman) among the ranks of the swedish warriorking Charles XIIs army. =
In 1709 this army was - not in such mysterical circumstances after all - =
completely destroyed by russian forces in the battle at Poltava (one of =
the kings generals that has been blamed for one of the most fatal =
mistakes during this battle was Carl Gustaf Roos; or C G Roos; C Groos; =
well you se where im pointing at).=20
Recently, I ran over yet another unpleasant Groorelated historical =
incident:=20
In 1628 the swedish royal navy was to be reinforced by a huge and =
usable new admiralship named Wasa (you might actually know about her, =
shes pretty unique of her kind). This great vessel was built in massive =
oak, decorated with alot of gold, carried 64 bronze cannons (terrifying =
numbers then) and some 200 men. The 10th of August she left the docks of =
Stockholm on her maiden voyage, with open gunports, full sails, flags =
atop and was expected to salute her way through the archipelago heading =
for the Baltic sea. The ship was to sail to Germany, where Sweden had =
just engaged on the protestant side in the Thirty Years War, to help =
tackle the catholic onslaught. But to the horror of the townspeople (not =
to speak abuot her crew) "something" got wrong and she sunk at the =
ceremonial depature, within a few minutes, right before their eyes in =
the waters of the Stockholm harbour. Disaster.=20
Late theories speculate that the accident was caused by unbalance in =
Wasas weight and height, causing the ship to flip to her side letting =
water flush into the the open gunports. I early bought that theory, =
thinking they should have loaded her with even more guns correcting the =
instability.=20
Now, however, I know better. =20
Just guess what the constructors name was. Arndt de Groot. I couldnt =
believe my eyes (or could I?). Someone erred! And I cant stop thinking =
about that early Groo adventure called Shanghaied: will I ever be able =
to enter the museum of the Wasa again, without hearing the hysterical =
laughter of captain Ahax echoing through the walls of the exhibition =
hall?
Probably to be continued. /Oskar.=20
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Wasa was dragged out of the water in 1961, some 333 years after the =
shipwreck, was rebuilt and put into her final restingplace in the =
"catacomb" called the Wasamuseum. Its now a popular tourist attraction. =
Some visitors might even notice the stale stench of 17th century cheese =
dip around. None has ever been blamed or punished for the catastroph...=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Amazing!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>What a great story of disaster & Groo. =
(pardone me=20
for being redundant.) Mark, you'll pass Oskar's piece of history =
onto to=20
Sergio, won't you? -Gary G. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PS to Elie, Groo is very nuetral. He slays=20
everyone. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 06, 2002 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Groop]Groo in swedish =
history=20
(part 2)</DIV>
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<P>For more than a year ago, I wrote you an article about som spooky =
and=20
coincidal appearences of the name Groo (though in many forms, such as =
Grooth=20
or Gropius and I specially recall one, most suspectible, =
called=20
Groopman) among the ranks of the swedish warriorking Charles XIIs =
army. In=20
1709 this army was - not in such mysterical circumstances =
after all=20
- completely destroyed by russian forces in the battle at Poltava (one =
of the=20
kings generals that has been blamed for one of the most fatal =
mistakes=20
during this battle was Carl Gustaf Roos; or C G Roos; C Groos; =
well you=20
se where im pointing at). </P>
<P>Recently, I ran over yet another unpleasant Groorelated historical=20
incident: </P>
<P>In 1628 the swedish royal navy was to be reinforced by a huge=20
and usable new admiralship named Wasa (you might actually know =
about her,=20
shes pretty unique of her kind). This great vessel was built in =
massive oak,=20
decorated with alot of gold, carried 64 bronze cannons =
(terrifying=20
numbers then) and some 200 men. The 10th of August she left the =
docks of=20
Stockholm on her maiden voyage, with open gunports, =
full sails,=20
flags atop and was expected to salute her way through the archipelago =
heading=20
for the Baltic sea. The ship was to sail to Germany, where Sweden had =
just=20
engaged on the protestant side in the Thirty Years War, to help tackle =
the=20
catholic onslaught. But to the horror of the townspeople (not to speak =
abuot her crew) "something" got wrong and she sunk at the=20
ceremonial depature, within a few minutes, right before their =
eyes in the=20
waters of the Stockholm harbour. Disaster. </P>
<P>Late theories speculate that the accident was caused by unbalance=20
in Wasas weight and height, causing the ship to flip to her=20
side letting water flush into the the open gunports. I early =
bought that=20
theory, thinking they should have loaded her with even more=20
guns correcting the instability. </P>
<P>Now, however, I know better. </P>
<P>Just guess what the constructors name was. Arndt de Groot. I =
couldnt=20
believe my eyes (or could I?). Someone erred! And I cant stop thinking =
about=20
that early Groo adventure called Shanghaied: will I ever be able to =
enter the=20
museum of the Wasa again, without hearing the hysterical laughter of =
captain=20
Ahax echoing through the walls of the exhibition hall?</P>
<P>Probably to be continued. /Oskar. </P>
<P>---</P>
<P>Wasa was dragged out of the water in 1961, some 333 years after the =
shipwreck, was rebuilt and put into her final restingplace in the =
"catacomb"=20
called the Wasamuseum. Its now a popular tourist attraction. Some =
visitors=20
might even notice the stale stench of 17th century cheese dip around. =
None has=20
ever been blamed or punished for the =
catastroph... <BR><BR><BR></P>
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