[Groop] OT-library

Groosagi16 at cs.com Groosagi16 at cs.com
Tue Oct 21 09:36:43 PDT 2003





I said:

> >Most people, and especially most librarians, will tell you that comic 
> books 
> >are kids stuff.  It
> >is inconceivable to them that comic books are read or intended for adults. 
> >That is how the book >ended up in the teens section, despite the warning on 
> >the cover.
> 

Usagigoya sed:

> Hey, let's all dress up in sheets and we can round up all the librarians 
> and 
> beat them silly... Your comment is so discrimatory, it makes me wonder what 
> some poor librarian ever did to you besides shhhshing you for being too loud 
> or trying to get you to read a real book once in a while... 


------------------->Do I sense some animosity, perhaps an attack of some sort 
in your response to my earlier post?  I think that I do.  After your editing 
to take my comments out of context, you go right on ahead and by employing 
extremism and other unfounded jumps of logic attribute to me your very own 
thought process.  How does my comment that IMO (one of the parts you edited out) 
most librarians will tell you that comics are kids stuff result in my propounding 
that we round up the librarians and beat them silly?   Your belittlement (of 
the white sheets, not me) is insulting.  My comments were not discriminatory.  
Rounding librarians up for a beat down, that would be discriminatory.  If 
anything, what I did was engaging in prejudice.  Personally, I do not believe 
that to be the case.  My belief came born of previous discussion with numerous 
people, as well as librarians, where I was told specifically what I restated in 
my first post.   

As for "what some poor librarian did to [me]" and your wonderment, allow me 
to elucidate:  Nothing.  Getting me to read anything, real or otherwise, has 
never been a thing requiring prompting from anyone, although I always appreciate 
literary recomendations, whether I take them or not.  The one time I was 
shushed for being to loud while in the library was due to the excitement of 
playing the AD&D module Le Chateau D'Amberville for the first time back in 8th 
grade, I believe.  The librarian who requested our lowered volume was very 
reasonable and open-minded.  After the situation was explained to her she kindly 
showed us to a closed room where we could play with almost unabated glee.  As I 
have said I have nothing against librarians, and my comment remains my belief as 
it is based on numerous literary philosophy discussions I have had with 
people, as well as librarians.  The "discrimination" emebbed in the structure of the 
previous sentence, as well as the final sentence of the first paragraph, is 
intentional and for purely humorous purposes.

FTR, you are not the only left with a wonderment in their mind through this 
matter.

Usagigoya continues:

> thankful that libraries are willing to carry comics and also 
> remember that a lot of the work done in libraries is performed by students 
> and young adults 
> without any real training, so the mistake could easily been the fault of 
> some kid working after school...
> 

---------------------->No, I should not be thankful that they are "willing" 
to carry comics.  I am a member and supporter of my city's public libraries.  
Further I pay taxes which are allocated to the libraries.  I have a vested 
interest.  I have a valid right to voice my opinion on the matter directly to the 
library's directors.  I have a reasonable expectation for comic books to be 
carried.  I have a reaonable right to expect that the libraries will carry 
diverese literature in varied forms.  I should not be thankful, in the fashion your 
post seems to imply, that the libraries do what they are supposed to do.  
(Just so you know, I am thankful that comics are now coming to be carried in 
libraries, but it is not to the librarians or directrors to whom I am thankful in 
that regard.  Also, I may be using the word in a different sense than you 
did). The truth is the libraries should be thankful that I (amongst many other) 
am(are) willing to allocate part of my time and money for their benefit.

Your final comment is kinda like an appendix.  Bringing the entire context of 
my first post by refreshing your memory as to what I said, you will recall 
that I spoke of library volunteers.  Again, I can see where someone of that 
category might be responsible in improperly reshelving a book, I find it highly 
unlikely that such a worker would be responsible for categorizing a work.  
Regardless, and even with your scenario, what I said holds true.  A library worker 
judged the comic book without taking the time to figure out what it was, and 
they did such because of their prejudice that graphic fiction is kids stuff.

I apologize for this lenghty post.  I hope that my tone is not mistaken.  
However, I felt an atact upon my integrity and character, and chose not to let it 
lie.  Again, I apologize for taking your time with a post such as this.

Later,
A  
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