[Groop] My Last e-mail on this. I promise!

[Gary Grossmann]

OK.  I have been told today that the legality of recording something that is transmitted over publicly owned airways is still a bit gray, but in general the consensus is that it is legal and NOT a copyright infringement as long as you don't take what you recorded and sell it.  That IS different from file sharing or photocopying.  

I still don't know what the heck ISP's and the post office have to do with copyright infringement.  And I don't know how recording a show when you are at a meeting or your kid's basketball game so you can watch it later or the next day, with or without ads, is a copyright infringement or how it can possibly affect you.  As I said in the last message to you, getting up to pee during advertisements also negates their purpose.  By your logic then, getting up to pee is a copyright infringement or hurts people in the same way as a copyright infringement..

Gary "On to Other Things" Grossmann
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Groopunk at aol.com 
  To: groop at groo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:35 PM
  Subject: [Groop] RE: (Groop) (Filesharing)



  In a message dated 1/29/2004 11:23:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, grossfam at olywa.net writes:


    If the photocopying of art work is illegal, then is it not the same for recording a program?
      
    I don't know.  It probably is.  It's unenforcable, unknowable, and nobody cares unless you sell it or give it away in large quantities




  Just because you say "it's uknowable and nobody cares" doesn't make it so.  I can say that I care, because it IS affecting me.  And "selling it or [giving] it away in large quantities" is debatable.  Who determines this?
  As far as enforceability goes... it isn't exactly right for ISPs to be forced to reveal names of uploaders.  And if it IS right, then should the post office not be allowed to peruse any and all mail to be aware of the contents?
  If you go to a copy shop they will most likely refuse to copy any item from a book or published work.  Heck, I once brought in MY artwork and they asked for identification.

  And "unless you sell it or give it away in large quanties" negates the very argument that people have been using regarding the Groo PDFs.  Perhaps the person made only one copy to make it available for his friend to see on the other side of the country.  Perhaps.
  -seth- 


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