[Groop] Jim Shooter - EPIC Interference

[dougiemccoy at cox.net]

this is what Jim type on his page
"As I recall, the first page of the first EPIC Comics issue of Groo featured a cartoon of Sergio at his drawing board, speaking directly to the readers.  I don’t have a copy, so I’m doing this from memory, but Sergio was explaining that he had taken Groo elsewhere at first because Marvel wouldn’t let him keep the rights to his creation, but now that Marvel had finally seen the light, he was happy to work with EPIC."


this is what really one the page
""I WANTED TO TELL THE TALES OF GROO FOR YEARS-- BUT ALL THE COMIC COMPANIES INSISTED THAT THEY HAD TO OWN HIM! I, OF COURSE, SAID NO! GROO FINALLY APPEARED IN THE FIRST ISSUE OF DESTROYER DUCK FROM ECLIPSE COMICS...THEN WE DID EIGHT ISSUES OF GROO FOR PACIFIC COMICS. GROO'S FAME JUST GREW AND GREW...AND NOW, HERE WE ARE, MONTHLY-- ON NEWSSTANDS EVERYWHERE!"

So you can see Jim didn't get right, now was this because he  ego-butthead, or he just got it wrong i don't know...but i have to with Gary here and can't see Sergio begging to have a small part of GROO...
and did Mark on one of the Mark and Sergio panel at comic con talk about how Sergio saw a line in the EPIC contract where Marvel had the rigts to GROO and pointed this out Marks and Sergio lawyer... i might be wrong but pretty sure 
---- Gary Grossmann <garyg5678 at live.com> wrote: 
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> I am as loyal to Sergio as Rufferto is to Groo!  (But I'm not the smart one)  
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> (And I just hate BS!  Sergio is one of the nicest, most charming men on earth, and he also has a very, very strong personality that can be very forceful when he wants it to be.  Scott Shaw! once descibed his reaction to his initially meeting Sergio in this way: "He was big and handsome and cocky, and he scared the hell out of me!"  This, and other similar descriptions of Sergio do not square with Shooter's tale of a Sergio coming to him and essentially saying, "Gee, would it be asking too much for you to publish Groo and give me a little bit of the ownership of the character.  Pretty please?"  And Shooter's cheap shot at Mark at the end doesn't square with the facts either.  Like any comedy writer, Mark can occasionally say or write things that have a little sting to them, but I don't believe he has a spiteful bone in his body and it should go without saying there is nothing about the inner workings of the comic book industry about which he is ignorant.)  
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> But yeah, maybe someday I'll let you know how I really feel.  
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> Gary "Not a Jim Shooter Fan" G. 
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> From: cschechner at sbcglobal.net
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:31:49 -0500
> To: groop at groo.com
> Subject: Re: [Groop] Jim Shooter - EPIC Interference
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> So Gary, what are your real feelings?
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> On Jul 14, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Gary Grossmann wrote:
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> Shooter's story sounds like pure unadulterated bullshit to me.  Everthing he says that's in conflict with what Mark and Sergio have been saying for almost 30 years is completely at odds with objective facts and Sergio's personality.  E.G:
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> Marvel & DC were NOT allowing any artist to own any part of a creation at that point.  
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> Anyone who knows Sergio knows he doesn't waffle about anything, especially something like the rights to his creations. 
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> Shooter is a lying, self serving asshole! 
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