[Groop] Fwd: Groo Sale!

Chris Emmett mygodaplum at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Mar 31 17:05:54 PDT 2012


Hey Ryan


If the contract with DH required the digital copy then 
the revenue for the creator is dependent on the digital copy. If the 
digitals don't sell because the pirate version is available then the 
future revenue possibilities for the creator are diminished because the publisher is expecting less revenue. So it doesn't matter if they get paid per digital copy or not, the revenue is potentially affected.

You didn't say that you would buy them if they were a better scan, you just said you'd buy them if you didn't have them digitally already. If the publishers can't sell the DH digital copy then what's the incentive for anyone to publish the earlier comics digitally. Again affecting revenue for the creator. 

On your last paragraph, I was pretty much saying most of that myself - there's always going to be people who don't pay and they aren't reading us. My point there was that by publishing digitally the potential revenue is higher by increasing the audience e.g. 10% of 10000 is more sales than 80% of 1000.

Whether one pirates is a personal decision. It's something many people don't even consider like you say. I was considering in the light of all the comments whether my DVD backups for NAS were actually pirate in the face of the availability of official digital versions online. As I said I don't know the answer to this.

Womble



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> From: Ryan Simmons <ryan.gsimmons at gmail.com>
>To: groop at groo.com 
>Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2012, 16:46
>Subject: Re: [Groop] Fwd: Groo Sale!
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>Womble said:
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>"But having said that, I think the "I'm not affecting anyone's revenue because the item wasn't available from them in that format anyway" argument is compromised by this statement "I will for these newer ones that I don't already have digitally". Now they are available digitally, the pirate ones are affecting the creators' revenue from you."
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>Not really.   Because DH digital copies of Groo are all that available.  And the belief running right now among the Groop is that the only reason why those few exist in digital format is that it was part of the contract with DH.
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>Trust me, if they did PROFESSIONAL digital scans of the Pacifics, Marvels, etc, it would be a far superior thing than what I have.
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>What I have is akin to someone sitting in a movie theatre and recording the movie on a handheld.
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>Would you prefer a copy of that compared to the actual DVD sold?   Heck no.  Never.
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>But it's the only option I currently have.
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>But either way, saying that I am affecting anyone's revenue because the creators may, someday, if they feel like it, and have nothing better to do, one of these decades, come out with digital copies then I should just suck it until if and when they do is kind of ridiculous.  And it's unreasonable.  We can have an ethics debate all day long, but the other 50 million comic book fans that are downloading these digital copies all day every day aren't going to be privy to the conversation.  Or care what our personal conclusions are.   They're just going to keep downloading.
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