[Groop] NYC Brawl: It's All About the Pants!

Wed Nov 19 16:18:04 PST 2008

I second Alexander.  Raquel was really, steaming hot.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Alexander Durnan <
alexian.emperor at earthlink.net> wrote:

>  Hold on Gary, not a fair comparison.
> Now, both Raquel Welch and Mary Tyler Moore are sort of before my time,
>  but  I can still see them objectively from their work when they were in
> their prime.  At best Moore is cute, maybe even  pretty, but Welch could
> make even the most eloquent and self confident man a stammering drooling
> idiot.  Whoa!
>
> I grew up seeing The Dick Van Dyke show and the Mary Tyler Moore show in
> syndication on TV, she never seemed anything other than standard fare.  I
> think the first time I saw Raquel Welch, I think it was the one you mention
>  (or some other such one  that had her well "dressed") at about 13 years of
> age.  Lets just say I had an awakening of sorts.  None of the so called
> "hotties" of my own time ('80's) ever did that to me.  Aye yi yi....
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Grossmann, Gary (DOR) <GaryG at DOR.WA.GOV>
> *To:* groop at groo.com
>   *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 November, 2008 11:58
> *Subject:* [Groop] NYC Brawl: It's All About the Pants!
>
>
> Hi Folks!
>
> OK, let's get one thing straight.  Mark getting so bent out of shape about
> Larry thinking "The Dick Van Dyke Show" is overrated that he hauled off and
> slugged him has nothing to do with his high esteem for the generally
> brilliant writing and deft comic acting of that highly regarded show.  Oh
> no!!  And the fact that Mark has been a successful comedy writer for 35
> years, working on numerous TV shows, and has better insights into the
> subtleties that go into making a great comedy than most of us has nothing to
> do with why he lunged across the table and wrestled Larry to the ground.
> No, that's not it at all.
>
> It's really all about the pants.  Specifically, Capri pants and the fact
> that Mary Tyler Moore was inside them.  Yes, I'm afraid Mark made a
> spectacle of himself and brutalized poor Larry over a perceived insult to
> his adolescent fantasy girl.  After 40+ years, he's still hung up on the
> 60's version of Mary Tyler Moore and how great she looked in her Capri
> pants.  It's really sad when a 50-something year old man can't get past his
> teenage fantasies.  (Which reminds me, if anyone dares to say that Raquel
> Welch didn't deserve an Oscar for her fur bikini-clad performance in
> 1,000,000 Years B.C., I'll jump all over them!)
>
> Gary G.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Steller" <mrgrooism at yahoo.com>
> To: <groop at groo.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 4:59 PM
> Subject: [Groop] The Big Fight at the National in NYC
>
> > By now you probably have hard about ME and I having a bit of a scuffle
> > at The National, so I just want to set the record straight. Well, first
> > of all nobody was arrested, but I was asked to leave the Convention. It
> > was just regular security that escorted me out, not the cops.
> >
> >>From the beginning, I guess Mark and I both kind of got out of hand. We
> > were just talking about various things, Groo stuff and the election and
> > Sally Forth and lord knows what else. Someone who's a big fan of his
> > blog brought up the clip from the Dick Van Dyck show that Mark posted
> > recently, and all I said was that I thought the show was over-rated.
> > Mark thinks it's genius, but really I never found it to be funny at
> > all, especially the stupid Walnuts episode that he was going on about
> > ad nauseum!
> >
> > Anyway, it got a bit heated, we were both being very sarcastic and I
> > said some things that I probably should regret, about Van Dyck and
> > about his sense of humor in general. I'm sure Mark regrets what HE
> > said, at least he SHOULD, anyway, next thing I knew Mark was taking a
> > swing at me and we both sort of ended up rolling around on the ground.
> > I did sort of lose a tooth, but it was loose already. Somehow I came
> > off as the bad guy since Irwin Hasen said I started it, which isn't
> > true at all.
> >
> > Anyway, don't believe everything you hear. I'm sure Mark will want to
> > tell his side, but really, it's a free country, my opinion is just as
> > good as his.
> >
> > Anyway, even though they kicked me out yesterday I paid for today and
> > will damned well be going. I'm sure Mark will take this opportunity to
> > apologize properly, we'll go from there. Maybe I'll bring him a walnut!
> >
> > Sorry for all of the drama! Ignore the media reports. Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Larry "mrgrooism" Steller, Master Mendicant
> >
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