[Groop] NYC Brawl: It's All About the Pants!

Wed Nov 19 15:18:16 PST 2008

NYC Brawl: It's All About the Pants!Hold on Gary, not a fair comparison.
Now, both Raquel Welch and Mary Tyler Moore are sort of before my time,  but  I can still see them objectively from their work when they were in their prime.  At best Moore is cute, maybe even  pretty, but Welch could make even the most eloquent and self confident man a stammering drooling idiot.  Whoa!

I grew up seeing The Dick Van Dyke show and the Mary Tyler Moore show in syndication on TV, she never seemed anything other than standard fare.  I think the first time I saw Raquel Welch, I think it was the one you mention  (or some other such one  that had her well "dressed") at about 13 years of age.  Lets just say I had an awakening of sorts.  None of the so called "hotties" of my own time ('80's) ever did that to me.  Aye yi yi....
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Grossmann, Gary (DOR) 
  To: groop at groo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008 11:58
  Subject: [Groop] NYC Brawl: It's All About the Pants!

  Hi Folks! 

  OK, let's get one thing straight.  Mark getting so bent out of shape about Larry thinking "The Dick Van Dyke Show" is overrated that he hauled off and slugged him has nothing to do with his high esteem for the generally brilliant writing and deft comic acting of that highly regarded show.  Oh no!!  And the fact that Mark has been a successful comedy writer for 35 years, working on numerous TV shows, and has better insights into the subtleties that go into making a great comedy than most of us has nothing to do with why he lunged across the table and wrestled Larry to the ground.   No, that's not it at all.   

  It's really all about the pants.  Specifically, Capri pants and the fact that Mary Tyler Moore was inside them.  Yes, I'm afraid Mark made a spectacle of himself and brutalized poor Larry over a perceived insult to his adolescent fantasy girl.  After 40+ years, he's still hung up on the 60's version of Mary Tyler Moore and how great she looked in her Capri pants.  It's really sad when a 50-something year old man can't get past his teenage fantasies.  (Which reminds me, if anyone dares to say that Raquel Welch didn't deserve an Oscar for her fur bikini-clad performance in 1,000,000 Years B.C., I'll jump all over them!)       

  Gary G.  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Larry Steller" <mrgrooism at yahoo.com> 
  To: <groop at groo.com> 
  Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 4:59 PM 
  Subject: [Groop] The Big Fight at the National in NYC 

  > By now you probably have hard about ME and I having a bit of a scuffle 
  > at The National, so I just want to set the record straight. Well, first 
  > of all nobody was arrested, but I was asked to leave the Convention. It 
  > was just regular security that escorted me out, not the cops. 
  > 
  >>From the beginning, I guess Mark and I both kind of got out of hand. We 
  > were just talking about various things, Groo stuff and the election and 
  > Sally Forth and lord knows what else. Someone who's a big fan of his 
  > blog brought up the clip from the Dick Van Dyck show that Mark posted 
  > recently, and all I said was that I thought the show was over-rated. 
  > Mark thinks it's genius, but really I never found it to be funny at 
  > all, especially the stupid Walnuts episode that he was going on about 
  > ad nauseum! 
  > 
  > Anyway, it got a bit heated, we were both being very sarcastic and I 
  > said some things that I probably should regret, about Van Dyck and 
  > about his sense of humor in general. I'm sure Mark regrets what HE 
  > said, at least he SHOULD, anyway, next thing I knew Mark was taking a 
  > swing at me and we both sort of ended up rolling around on the ground. 
  > I did sort of lose a tooth, but it was loose already. Somehow I came 
  > off as the bad guy since Irwin Hasen said I started it, which isn't 
  > true at all. 
  > 
  > Anyway, don't believe everything you hear. I'm sure Mark will want to 
  > tell his side, but really, it's a free country, my opinion is just as 
  > good as his. 
  > 
  > Anyway, even though they kicked me out yesterday I paid for today and 
  > will damned well be going. I'm sure Mark will take this opportunity to 
  > apologize properly, we'll go from there. Maybe I'll bring him a walnut! 
  > 
  > Sorry for all of the drama! Ignore the media reports. Thanks! 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
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