[Groop] Fwd: Groo Sale!

Chris Emmett mygodaplum at yahoo.co.uk
Sun Apr 1 16:13:46 PDT 2012

Hey Ryan,

Well, I don't know what you mean by "zap" so we'll leave that.

So the question is, will you buy the DH digitals to use instead of your DH issue pirates? (if you haven't got DH pirates then consider it hypothetically)

If Yes, fab. If No, then you've affected their revenue.

Now whatever your answer to the above question, there are, as we've discussed, many people out there who will answer No and their piracy has affected the revenue of the creator as I've described.

Another question is, do they care?
Most of the time the answer is No. And their perception is that there is a majority that agrees with them; that's certainly my experience with the people I know who pirate things.

Which leads me on to a new point: I would say that your acceptance of pirating the comics and your arguments in favour of it, even if mitigated by the lack of an official source, are part of the perception of agreement of the pirates mentioned above. I know you will say you are one voice in millions and it is infinitesimally small but every little piece counts, your post may even be cited as an argument in favour of piracy somewhere more mainstream without you knowing it. 
While you are encouraging piracy, even if only slightly, you are affecting revenue through the actions of others who won't buy the DH digitals, even if only slightly. And before you say it, this isn't about a matter of degree, it's about the absolute morality of condoning or discouraging an action.

Concering your suggestion about scanning your own copies, actually, as I've been saying, I'm now re-considering whether taking my own rips of DVDs to play off my NAS is morally correct.
I would like it better, but I'm not forcing you to, if you didn't pirate the comics because Sergio and Mark have asked people not to.

Having said all this, everyone has different morals and I don't expect everyone's to be the same as mine. So I'm just putting forward my viewpoint on piracy. 


> From: Ryan Simmons <ryan.gsimmons at gmail.com>
>To: groop <Groop at groo.com> 
>Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2012, 21:50
>Subject: Re: [Groop] Fwd: Groo Sale!
>Womble said:
>"You didn't say that you would buy them if they were a better scan, you just said you'd buy them if you didn't have them digitally already. If the publishers can't sell the DH digital copy then what's the incentive for anyone to publish the earlier comics digitally. Again affecting revenue for the creator. "
>Really, Womble?  You're going to zap me because I was not one hundred percent clear with what my reaction would be if an official digital reissuing of the old Pacific or Marvels came out?
>I mean come on.  I'm a Groo completist.  I have a copy of every story of groo ever published.
>I'm not splitting hairs over this.
>I have illegally downloaded copies of Groo of the Pacific and Marvel and Image issues.  Why?  Because Mark and Sergio will not provide them to their fans.  Would you like it better if I scanned my own physical copies?  The end product for me would probably be a little better.  But that would take forever.
>Sergio can not lose revenue on a product he does not offer.  It's that simple.
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